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I recently acquired a Shultz and Larsen Rifle Company M65DL, factory chambered in 7mm Remington Magnum.

Canadian AR, will post some pics of the rifle for me in this thread, soon.

From what I can find out, the M65s were made between 1959 and 1965.

This rifle has been hunted but not abused. It has some dings on one side and a few other marks on the stock.

Blue is about 85% and there is no rust anywhere, including under the stock line.

The bore is as new, bright and crisp.

The trigger has a sharp let off and is adjustable.

An off hand sling swivel, just forward of the king screw, has been installed. For those serious about off hand shooting with an elbow tuck sling, which holds the fore end with better rigidity.

Cabela's recently sold one of these in the US for $1200. It was in better condition than this one.

I need some estimates of value for resale if some of you in the know would be so kind.
 
bearhunter said:
I recently acquired a Shultz and Larsen Rifle Company M65DL, factory chambered in 7mm Remington Magnum.

Canadian AR, will post some pics of the rifle for me in this thread, soon.

From what I can find out, the M65s were made between 1959 and 1965.

This rifle has been hunted but not abused. It has some dings on one side and a few other marks on the stock.

Blue is about 85% and there is no rust anywhere, including under the stock line.

The bore is as new, bright and crisp.

The trigger has a sharp let off and is adjustable.

An off hand sling swivel, just forward of the king screw, has been installed. For those serious about off hand shooting with an elbow tuck sling, which holds the fore end with better rigidity.

Cabela's recently sold one of these in the US for $1200. It was in better condition than this one.

I need some estimates of value for resale if some of you in the know would be so kind.
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As the Schultz & Larsen is my favorite bolt action rifle:), my initial response is "welcome to the club", however, it sounds as though your intent is to sell it. As I've posted in previous threads, for Schultz & Larsen rifles, my objective or 'quest' was to acquire examples of the big three items of co-operation between Schultz & Larsen and Norma. That 'quest' was successfully completed recently when I finally acquired a long sot after item in 358 Norma Magnum:D. Top down;
-A model 68DL in 7x61 S&H
-A model 65DL in 308 Norma Magnum
-A model 68DL in 358 Norma Magnum



They are a high quality rifle with two big plus points. Great workmanship and the highest quality barrels. 65DL and 68DL examples I've seen at local gun shows, in top condition are usually in the $1000.oo - $1200.oo range. A few gentlemen on site that are very knowledgeable on Schultz & Larsen rifles, far more than me, are;
H4831
dwh44
daddylonglegs.

Also, and if you can locate a copy, there's a very good article on Schultz & Larsen rifles in a copy of Bolt Action Rifles, Expanded 4th Edition by Frank de Hass & Dr. Wayne van Zwoll
 
Beautifully made, although fairly big and heavy, the only real criticism was the rear locking lug design... hand loaders loading excessively run into extraction problems quickly.

Values as above...

As usual they will draw more $ in the US.
 
Mr Peterson, that 7x61 has funny looking wood compared to the others, you better sell it to me and find one that matches the other two better, lol.

I admire both your taste, and your rifle collection, well done sir!
 
Nice rifles but the absolute worst kicking rifle i ever shot was a S&H in 308 Norma mag. Three shots from the bench trying to sight it in for a friend was all i wanted. He didn't do well with it as a hunting rifle.
 
guntech said:
Beautifully made, although fairly big and heavy, the only real criticism was the rear locking lug design... hand loaders loading excessively run into extraction problems quickly.

Values as above...

As usual they will draw more $ in the US.
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:)Agreed. As much as I like the S&L, ;)given an opportunity for a Sheep hunt, it wouldn't be my first rifle of choice. Unless of course I had recently done well on a Loto 649 draw and had a designated gun bearer along.

I have yet to get into some serious reload 'work-ups' with the 7x61 S&H and the 358 NM but a number of years back I did a lot of testing with the 308 NM. I have changed or started a change over to Barnes TTSX in a number of calibers, one of which is the 308 NM. Prior to that, one of my best accuracy efforts in reloads for the 308 NM was using the Sierra 200gr SBT.



This load is actually a little over the Sierra manual suggested max. However, with this and others at max or near max, so far, I've never experienced any extraction and/or preasure related problems,;)yet. Years ago on one occasion/opportunity, I did question the strength of their rear locking design. I was informed that with the quality of the steel, size and bulk of the action and size of the locking lugs, there was no need for concern.

ForgotOne 'thing' I have shied away from is stripping down the bolt. I may be wrong but to me it looks like it may be a complicated task, compared to say what's required on the bolt from a Mauser 98 action
 
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kamlooky said:
Ten or twelve brown ones I agree on also.
Anything le$$ is a bargain if it's in any kind of shape.
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I had to lay out a few more 'brown ones' for the 358 NM, but, it is mint and fairly scarce in that caliber.



But, now my S&L 'quest' is complete:D. Prior to getting the S&L in 358 NM, I did purchase a VERY nice Husqvarna model 1651 in that caliber.





To pretty for me to part with at present.
 
I did spring a S&L action with a hot 308 load, very hard closing the bolt after that. Mind you the factory 180 gr loads are stiff loads. They are beautiful rifles, had the 7 and 308 mags but never a 358. I found the ejection port too small and therefore would never take one on a dangerous game hunt. At gun shows in Alberta they "ask" from 800 to 1200 depending on condition.
 
Thanks guys. I really appreciate the responses.

I've been told by a fellow in the US that the S&L DL rifles factory chambered in 7mm Rem Mag are the hardest to find. I certainly can't verify his comment nor make an educated comment on the information.

S&L rifles are by no means rare in North America although there seems to be more available in Canada than the US.

I haven't actually decided to sell or keep the rifle. If I keep it, I will definitely refinish it with an original finish and steam out the dings.

One other question, are your rifles glass bedded? The bedding in this rifle has been inletted very closely. I don't know if glass bedding would really improve anything, other than in my own mind.
 
There is a grey haired chap that has one and it is in really nice shape.
I do believe I saw it at the last Salmon Arm show and quite possibly at
our last Kamloops show.
It is the true 7mm and not the converted 7x61 S&H reamed out.
Scoped and nicely dressed, I think he was at $1200.
The same pleasant gent I bought my BLR81 358win from.
 
bearhunter said:
Thanks guys. I really appreciate the responses.

I've been told by a fellow in the US that the S&L DL rifles factory chambered in 7mm Rem Mag are the hardest to find. I certainly can't verify his comment nor make an educated comment on the information.

S&L rifles are by no means rare in North America although there seems to be more available in Canada than the US.

I haven't actually decided to sell or keep the rifle. If I keep it, I will definitely refinish it with an original finish and steam out the dings.

One other question, are your rifles glass bedded? The bedding in this rifle has been inletted very closely. I don't know if glass bedding would really improve anything, other than in my own mind.
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Could be, but I guess one would have to make that inquiry through someone like dwh44 or daddylonglegs on this site. They would likely be able to shed some loght on the topic. For me, the only S&L I've sold was a model 68DL, in 7mm Mag as I wanted the 7x61 S&H for my three gun quest. And, at local gun shows over the years, I've seen two others in 7mm Mag. I'll quite likely see dwh44 at a local gun show in the not too distant future so I'll have to ask him.
 
The Schultze & Larsen rifles of the 1960s, in calibre 7x61 and 308 Norma, were second to no other makes in over the counter types, for accuracy out of the box. I tested many of them. Ater a brief sighting in, I would fire five rounds, one right after the other. In every single case, the rifle would make a nice little group, with no sign, whatsoever, of walking the bullets as the barrel heated up. This is as good as it gets and can't be improved upon by further bedding.
It was just precise wood inletting that did it, with pressure on the barrel.
No other make of rifle I tested could be counted on to do this. Most of them would walk the bullets as the barrel heated up.
I was very disappointed with a Sako, L61 in 270, that walked the bullets as it heated up and had to be properly bedded, after which it shot great.
 
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