Siamese mauser action

Hi, maybe this will help some one .....
Back in may after I found the Siamese mauser action, and a barrel treaded 12TPI with .458 bore I enquire with forain affair in Ottawa re rule to send the component to a smith in USA for some work. I was told canada do not need any special paper to send it to US...but verify with ATF, call ATF head office in W.Virginia and they also told me send it, but just in case verify with Department of State, call Washington and they also told me go, but maybe I should check with U.S. custom of Seattle ( the town where the action was going ) Custom also told me go, just to put with the goods a letter explaining the intentions and also the canadian copy of registration and just mail it.
I did as told, the parcel arrive at destination early june, the smith chamber the barrel in 45/70, cut the shank and retread for the Siamese 14TPI install the barrel alter the lip and fedding ramp, remove the outside rail for the cover and send it back the week after by mail. Few days later U.S.Custom call the smith to advise him that the rifle was seized since He did not apply for a export license....
Later on when custom forwarded all the seizure paper I comunicate with the custom to explain that we did not export nothing but the smith simply returning my own parts afer some labor.... It do not work that way the smith still need to apply for the export license DSP-5 ( the fees for the license is $ 2250 U.S.)
Finally after many calls to Department of State was discover that once in a life time there is a exemption to the payment of that fees and the smith got the license this week... I should get my rifle soon.!!!!
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roberto
 
We are becoming more isolated every day.

What was all that garbage they taught us in school, anyway? Something about the longest undefended border in the world? Ten thousand Mexicans a night can cross their Southern border and not get nabbed, but I don't think a GOPHER can get across 49 without being picked up by the drones and the INS. It's almost as if our countries were in a state of apprehended war.

Somebody has to tell Washington that those airplanes were not being flown by Canadians. They were being flown by Islamic militants, most of them Saudi citizens, nearly all of whom were in the USA legally and who received their flight training in the USA. If we can get THAT point across, perhaps some day we can go back to being normal human beings again.

In the meantime, we can deal exclusively in our own country and use this as a method to build up a bigger, more vigorous CANADIAN industry. We can then follow the examples of OTHER Canadian companies and open factories in the USA in order to cater to their much larger market. And if we are SMART about it, these companies will be OWNED (on paper, anyway) OFFSHORE and have bank accounts in Belgium and Switzerland for hiding all that filthy money in.

The problem now, right here, seems to be locating a Siamese Mauser action. They are getting rare these days, far too many having been built into .45-70s already.

At least the OP is getting his back, most thankfully, but what about all the other guys who are looking for these things for the same purpose?

What about other Mausers? There were certainly enough converted to 16-bore and even 12-bore by Geco, following World War One. If it was possible 90 years ago, it should be possible today, one would think.

If the man plans to stick with original Black-powder-period pressures, what is wrong with a Lee-Enfield action? The .45-70 was, after all, one of the original calibres of the 1879 Lee rifle, along with the .43 Spanish. Five-round magazines, too.
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smellie said:
If the man plans to stick with original Black-powder-period pressures, what is wrong with a Lee-Enfield action? The .45-70 was, after all, one of the original calibres of the 1879 Lee rifle, along with the .43 Spanish. Five-round magazines, too.
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I have a No.4 Mk1 rebarrelled to 45-70 and im not worried about loading it like a Marlin....I Havent bothered trying to load it like a Ruger. Its given me all I can handle as far as recoil so far.
 
I going to go out on a tree limb here and suggest this:
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An FN-K98 Mauser converted to 458 x 2inch American, or a 450 Marlin if you prefer that. (get it done here in Canada)
Acquire a good barrel, order a Boyd's, get your milsurp, maybe a Timney too, and with a little co-ordination from Epp's gunsmith beforehand.
 
Smellie, The No4 Lee Enfield action, is capable of handling just about anything that can be loaded into a 45-70. It is a strong and robust action.
Another decent candidate for conversion, is the Pattern 14 rifle. A little extra weight, to tame the recoil as well.

I did convert an M95 straight pull to 45-70 once. It was a pain in the butt though. The rims on the cartridges, had to be reduced in diameter and the clips had to be split and widened. Then the mag well, had to be opened to accept the widened clip. It worked well, after way to much work, just to save a few dollars on an action. The straight pull action, took a bit of getting used to as well. I sold it before registration came in and have absolutely no idea where the rifle is now. I would hope, it's still seeing some use.

I've seen and used more than one Pattern 14 conversion. Not a lot of difference to converting one of those over a Siamese Mauser. The biggest problem, is getting a stock.

The Siamese conversion I have was done for me by a very good friend, now deceased. The stock on it was carved from a blank. I like it a lot.
 
Very nice! I have a .45-70 on a Siamese Mauser as well. I load 405gr Woodleigh Weldcores over H4198 to an avg velocity of 2080fps. Groups consistantly run under 1.5 moa, with most right around 1 moa.
 
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