Sidewinder Venom for Mossberg 500/590/Maverick 88

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Irunguns is selling a Mav 88 w/10rd magazine for $532 US (conversion kit for your 18.5" w/5 or 6rd tube is $339). What do you guys think? Anyone ever try one of these? Do I need another mossberg? It appears you are losing 40% of your forend's length, so if you have short arms this may be a problem.
 
I JUST finished installing my kit from Calgary Shooting Center. Thanks for the quick shipping. ��
The instructions are pretty lame (small black and white pics) and the YouTube installation video Adaptive Tactical has posted is even worse. But I'm as noob as my post count would suggest and I managed to get it together so I thought I'd make a post about my experience.
I've never done more than load and fire a shotgun so after trying a few crap YouTube videos I found this one helpful:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=btgzD0Hj6eE

My mag well didn't align with the receiver like it was supposed to, it was at about 5 o'clock, looking from the back of the shotgun, and it's supposed to be at 6. So I had to turn the mag tube almost an entire revolution. The instructions tell you to cut the receiver threads deeper with the supplied cutting tool, which it didn't actually come with. There was a little addendum instruction note stapled to the instructions telling me to take material off the mag tube with the supplied sandpaper. Yep it sucked but I finally got it. And I REALLY don't like the bite marks the pipe wrench left in the mag tube paint. Might need to get a bottom-slung laser to hide it.

I don't like the M4 style stock, but that's just me. I think those are fore AR15s. Anyone wanna buy it from me?

I also don't like how cheap the foreend looks and feels. And I'm not gonna install the Kelly grip and have it catching on things/breaking off.

Installing the follower assembly into the mag tube is a PITA. I eventually lubed it with some Hoppe's oil and just kept fiddling with it til it finally snapped into place. And it takes a bit of doing to fit the (also cheap feeling) keeper into the top of the mag tube, through the follower, and into the inside of the foreend. But it actually snaps into place quite nicely.

I had my 4 year old strapped into my truck when I went out to the bush to test my new mod so I didn't actually fire it yet. I just cycled it. It seems to me like you have to be kinda rough with the gun now. A few shells tried to jam and the follower dented the plastic at the front of the shell. After extracting it and pumping the next shell into the chamber with some gusto, I had no trouble.

That's what I've found so far. A few friends are shocked at how badass my lowly Maverick 88 looks, but we'll soon see if it fires well enough to stick around.
 
I JUST finished installing my kit from Calgary Shooting Center. Thanks for the quick shipping. ��
The instructions are pretty lame (small black and white pics) and the YouTube installation video Adaptive Tactical has posted is even worse. But I'm as noob as my post count would suggest and I managed to get it together so I thought I'd make a post about my experience.
I've never done more than load and fire a shotgun so after trying a few crap YouTube videos I found this one helpful:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=btgzD0Hj6eE

My mag well didn't align with the receiver like it was supposed to, it was at about 5 o'clock, looking from the back of the shotgun, and it's supposed to be at 6. So I had to turn the mag tube almost an entire revolution. The instructions tell you to cut the receiver threads deeper with the supplied cutting tool, which it didn't actually come with. There was a little addendum instruction note stapled to the instructions telling me to take material off the mag tube with the supplied sandpaper. Yep it sucked but I finally got it. And I REALLY don't like the bite marks the pipe wrench left in the mag tube paint. Might need to get a bottom-slung laser to hide it.

I don't like the M4 style stock, but that's just me. I think those are fore AR15s. Anyone wanna buy it from me?

I also don't like how cheap the foreend looks and feels. And I'm not gonna install the Kelly grip and have it catching on things/breaking off.

Installing the follower assembly into the mag tube is a PITA. I eventually lubed it with some Hoppe's oil and just kept fiddling with it til it finally snapped into place. And it takes a bit of doing to fit the (also cheap feeling) keeper into the top of the mag tube, through the follower, and into the inside of the foreend. But it actually snaps into place quite nicely.

I had my 4 year old strapped into my truck when I went out to the bush to test my new mod so I didn't actually fire it yet. I just cycled it. It seems to me like you have to be kinda rough with the gun now. A few shells tried to jam and the follower dented the plastic at the front of the shell. After extracting it and pumping the next shell into the chamber with some gusto, I had no trouble.

That's what I've found so far. A few friends are shocked at how badass my lowly Maverick 88 looks, but we'll soon see if it fires well enough to stick around.

I don't want to come off as rude but it seems from your post you have not spent much time working or guns before this project.
The instructions are basic because not much is needed to be done.
yes you do have to sand the sand of the tube in order to index it but using a pipe wench???!!! what made you think that was a good idea.
This kit is a bit more work to install then a stock and forend, but maybe take it a little slower next time.
 
I don't want to come off as rude but it seems from your post you have not spent much time working or guns before this project.
The instructions are basic because not much is needed to be done.
yes you do have to sand the sand of the tube in order to index it but using a pipe wench???!!! what made you think that was a good idea.
This kit is a bit more work to install then a stock and forend, but maybe take it a little slower next time.

No offense taken at all, I'm very new to this world. I think I said I was an extreme noob, don't feel like reading my book again to make sure, haha! Adaptive Tactical's video shows removing the mag tube with channel lock pliers, which to me seems just as hack as a pipe wrench. And actually, the printed instructions recommend pliers or a pipe wrench. Is there a dedicated tool for this job? I'm new to the gun world but not new to finishig metal so I can make it look nice again if I get the urge to.
 
No offense taken at all, I'm very new to this world. I think I said I was an extreme noob, don't feel like reading my book again to make sure, haha! Adaptive Tactical's video shows removing the mag tube with channel lock pliers, which to me seems just as hack as a pipe wrench. And actually, the printed instructions recommend pliers or a pipe wrench. Is there a dedicated tool for this job? I'm new to the gun world but not new to finishig metal so I can make it look nice again if I get the urge to.
well then I do understand why you did that, that's bad on them, as that tube is super thin, ive worked on 100,s of mossbergs and the 2 main things that were always in need of work was the plastic top safety( it cracks and falls out) and damaged mag tubes due to people using a pip wrench or other to install or take off.
Ill drop them a note about that, as any Mossberg smith knows how thing that tube is.
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That's what I've found so far. A few friends are shocked at how badass my lowly Maverick 88 looks, but we'll soon see if it fires well enough to stick around.

Go shoot it when you have time and report back. If it functions as it is designed, then the headaches were worth it :yingyang:
 
Just did my first mag dump. Like I suspected, you gotta be a bit more forceful with the action now. Otherwise it jams. And as cheesy as I find that Kelly grip, it makes more sense now after shooting it. The back of the foreend has that big flat section, presumably to keep you from pinching the edge of your palm between the foreend and the mag well when you're pumping it with the newly required force. It makes handling the pump a bit awkward, so I can now better see how the Kelly grip will have its benefits. I'm not 100% sure if I'll keep this conversion on, but there's no comparison to how quick I can load a tube versus insert a mag.
 
Its cool if you like dinkin with your guns or have some extra cash to spend. Don't think its for me, I do think its cool though. I like pumps for being rock solid and reliable. This seems like it might take that away.
 
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