Sig 226 issue, fellow sig owners please take a look.

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Hey I took the grips off of my sig today, and noticed this bit of aluminum being bashed by the trigger bar? Anywho, I doubt this is normal, and maby something is out of place? I have never had it past feild stripped, and I am the second owner, aprox # of rounds is 3000, its .40s&w.

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Anyone eles care to look at theres and see if the same thing is there?
 
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That wear sure doesn't look normal to me. I have two 226's one with about 750 rnds through it, if that, and another one with 7-8000 which I use for ipsc.

Both guns are relatively clean and smooth in that area, except for being coated with some light gun oil, and a small amount of dirt on the ipsc gun.

There is certainly no metal wear on either gun.

You sure about the 3000 rnd count? Being the second owner and all.
I'd clean it up and shoot it some more to see if it recurs.
 
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I'd clean it up and shoot it some more to see if it recurs.
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Good idea. Cover the spot with something like a black marker and see if it gets rubbed off. That would determine if something has happened, or it's doing something right now.
 
Yeah acording to the wear spots on the rest of the gun yeah... I fire it in allot of dusty situations, its just normal grime down there. I alread did the marker thing, will fire it again sometime soon. I had the pannels off before, I should have noticed it. Oh well as long as everything works I guess.
 
lol... I was having a problem with my Walther G22 "over cocking" and the hammer was hitting the "hammer strut spring bar". I could see the metal impact marks.

I did the black marker trick, and sure enough it was hitting the bar causing damage.

What I didn't notice? There use to be a hammer stop pin to stop the hammer from overcocking. It sheared it off so flawlessly, I didn't notice it was missing!

Sometimes it's the thing that you don't see in there that did the damage a little while ago ;)

-Jamie M.
 
I can't see anything thats wrong, maby the trigger bar is a little out of spec? If I pull the trigger all the way to the rear, and I push down where the slide would on the disconect, it would come auful close to hitting, but I guess it must have some momentum from the slide going back when fired, and pushing it down, that it hits.
 
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All of the above suggestions are really good. I would get one of the AGI SIG armourer DVD's which does the step by step detail strip of the weapon which would give you the ability to do a close inspection of the affected area and parts as well as give the entire pistol a thurough cleaning. I purchased one of the DVD's and it was oustanding for instruction and added confidence to dismantle the pistol entirely. They run about $30 from Brownells and are worth it.BTW my 9mm 226 did not have those wear patterns either good luck with it
 
Could you post a slightly better pic so that I can see exactly which wear you are talking about? I see a couple of things that don't look right.

I'm a Sig armourer and former adjunct instructor for Sigarms. I have never seen that type of wear on any Sig handgun. Rather than look like an idiot beofre I know all the facts, I won't make any comment until I can see a better pic.
 
Well now that I painted it with a bit of marker, its not as shiny, but I basicaly suspect the trigger bar is peening the frame where that dimple is somehow. I have such terrible luck with auto loading pistols.. There is always something funky/bad happening.

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JD,

I just tore down my 226 and it has the exact same type of wear (I only have 3000 rounds through mine).

I played around with it and it appears to happen when a mag is inserted and the slide locks open under recoil (the trigger bar bounces down and off of that piece). It looks like it is there as a redundant locator for the trigger bar. I've never heard of or seen a malfunction related to this:confused:

I'm really not sure why this occurs nor why that piece is even machined into the frame:confused:

Just an FYI, I put over 90000 rounds through a P229 and the only malfunctions were due to parts wear (4 broken extractors, 3 barrels worn out, 2 broken firing pins and more broken trigger return springs than I remember... probably broke one every 8000 rounds or so). The frame had very little wear that would scare you so I doubt the 226 is any worse. I do recall the same type of wear marks in it though.

If it hasn't caused any malfunctions then don't worry about it, it looks like it will wear to a certain point then stop. It doesn't look pretty but what can you do?

I know that doesn't sound encouraging but...well....it is a duty gun....:redface:
 
guys, you might want to try searching sigforums.com.
i remember seeing a similar thread dealing with this problem that could provide more insight and details

cheers
 
I have 2 SIG P226s. One has this galling on the frame and the other one doesn't.

According to postings on sigforum.com, this is completely normal. To me something seemed to be out of spec, but the galling gets to a certain point and stays the same.

Both guns shoot fine.

Not sure what else to tell you. Enjoy the gun.

Cheers,
Henry
 
Yep, The armourer retired it because the trigger-spring locator hole above the mag catch was gettting oval.

I had not had any malfunctions related to it but it was a duty gun so for safety reasons, we retired it at 90000 rounds. I conducted training one week, worked on the road for a weekend and when I returned the trigger return spring broke on round number 2! Good thing didn't need it that weekend!:redface:
 
Nester,

I was just going to suggest that you come aboard here as you are the Sig guy and know all about these things. I just looked at my 228 and it does not look like this.
 
Hey JD...I'd suggest posting your picture/question over at sigforum.com in the "Sig Armorer" section. These guys are obsessed with SIGs and I'm sure you'll get some answers to your problem. Chris Orndorff in the armorer section knows a huge amount about SIGs.

Just a thought...
 
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