SIG Blackwater
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henryhyde said:
Jerry's a great guy. Spoke to him several times. However, to support our industry, we should be more receptive to buy from a Canadian reseller if the inventory is readily available.
Buying from the states not only takes money out of our local economy but also affects how we, as Canadian firearms/property owners, are trying to establish our rights and freedom..
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edward911 said:
Oh really? Even if you pay more money buying from a Canadian Dealer?
If you have extra dough to spend.. fine do it your way, nothing wrong with your ideals. However, if someone want to save few pennies by buying firearms legally outside of Canada, why CRITIZISE them???????
Also, why would this affect Canadian firearms/property owners, who are trying to establish our rights and freedom if we opt to buy legally from the US????? It is NOT where you buy firearms in Canada that jeopardizes the rights and freedom of firearms owner in Canada... HELLLLOOOOOOOO?????? wake up..............
Would be great if the government will give Canadian firearm owner's the "RIGHTS AND FREEDOM" to buy firearms legally from the States freely without going thru so much hassles we are experiencing now.
Why discourage someone who wants to buy firearms outside of Canada, why stop them????
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Hard to beat the service from TSE! Any dealings I've had have been excellent. You won't be disapointed with the quality and performance of a Sig either.
edward911 said:
Hi Edward,
I certainly understand the sentiment and I tend to buy from Canadian dealers as much as possible. Even though, Canadian dealers are normally slightly more expensive. This is not generally an issue for me.
However for some items like the P226 Navy or the Blackwater and certian other items, the difference is almost a factor of 2. Paying double is something I'm not about to do.
BTW, no offence taken and I prefer to support the Canadian economy as much as possible, but not at double the price.
I don't really understand the other point you made about the Firearms owners rights. Could you please elaborate.
Thanks.
Cheers,
Henry
Hi,
Just wanted to state for the record, that my suggestion about buying from the states was not meant to be a negative comment about any of our fine Canadian dealers.
It was just meant to be a pointer to significant saving in certain specialized cases.
Cheers,
Henry
Just wanted to state for the record, that my suggestion about buying from the states was not meant to be a negative comment about any of our fine Canadian dealers.
It was just meant to be a pointer to significant saving in certain specialized cases.
Cheers,
Henry
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On the buying firearms in the US thing and Canada being so anal on the importation, it is not Canada, it is the US who have put all thses export rules inplace, it is very easy to aquire an import permit for Canada, but it takes a long time to get that US export permit. On the Blackwater Sig, TSE lists that for $1449.00 with night sights and 5 mags, that is a great deal and they are great to deal with. If I am not mistaken, the 226 Blackwater is a regular 226 with fancy grips and the logos, but then again, buy it were you wish.
Wobbly, let me clarfify some of your points below:
WP...I have never criticized anyone for buying outside of Canada. I too will buy from the States for products that I know I cannot get here in Canada.
WP...as stated in another post, it is NOT solely the Canadian government that is restricting the "RIGHTS AND FREEDOM" from legally buying permited firearms and associated accessories from the USA. It is the USA export restrictions and laws that make us Canadians have to jump through so many hoops to import the allowable firearms/accessories.
My comments were not intended to discourage nor stop people from buying cross border. The intent was purely opinion and my own self purchasing practices.
Wobbly Popper said:
WP...I have never criticized anyone for buying outside of Canada. I too will buy from the States for products that I know I cannot get here in Canada.
Wobbly Popper said:
WP...as stated in another post, it is NOT solely the Canadian government that is restricting the "RIGHTS AND FREEDOM" from legally buying permited firearms and associated accessories from the USA. It is the USA export restrictions and laws that make us Canadians have to jump through so many hoops to import the allowable firearms/accessories.
My comments were not intended to discourage nor stop people from buying cross border. The intent was purely opinion and my own self purchasing practices.
Wobbly Popper said:
WP...let me give you an example, particularly the one in question regarding this thread.
SIG Blackwater sells for $819 USD according to someone's post above. Add the shipping and insurance that OO charges which is $35 USD for a total landed cost to an American FFL of $854 USD. Let's use an arbitrary exchange rate of 1.200. This gives us an estimated converted Canadian equivalent cost of $1,025 (rounded up).
Now let's add the import fees of $200 that Questar charges (excludes GST). This now gives us an anticipated cost of $1,225 CAD plus GST, brokerage, and shipping to Canada.
In another post above, someone stated that TSE sells their currently in stock Blackwater for $1,449 plus GST.
The net difference for the purchase from OO (once again, Jerry is a great guy as stated before) and TSE (which are also great guys) is $224 CAD plus GST.
The actually difference is not double, as some may imply, and is marginal in my opinion only. Considering the difference, I would still prefer to purchase the Blackwater from TSE, not only because they are great guys, but because I can start to enjoy the firearm within a couple of days of transfer and registration.
Some people may decide that the $224 is too great of a difference and decide to buy the firearm from the States. All the best to them and no issues for me with them doing so. The only downside from doing so is the 3 to 4 months wait for importing a firearm from the States. Now this waiting period is a crap shoot and can go either shorter or longer. It all depends on how fast our Canadian and American civil servants decide to process the necessary paperwork.
Myself, I would prefer to start enjoying the new firearm purchased here in Canada and know that I have supported the local economy and whole gun industry. Also, I know the guys at TSE will fully support and stand behind the product and warranty any issues I may have. For the US purchased Sig, not sure how that will work.
Now, how does this support the fight for our firearms/property rights and freedom? I will explain that in a subsequent post as this one is lengthy as it is.
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