Sig P226 vs. Steyr M-A1 for IPSC Production?

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Would one be better than the other for IPSC?

I know that Steyr has less muzzle flip due to lower bore axis so it's probably a faster shooter and the trigger pull is always the same.

Sig does have a slightly longer barrel (0.33”) and ligher SA trigger... when else? :confused:

woud there be a technical/practical reason to pick Sig over Steyr for IPSC?

 
Although I liked my Steyr, I found the magwell angle/width made quick, smooth mag changes more difficult than the Sig...
Other than that, there's probably not much to choose.
The downside to the Sig is that you'd have to fire the first shot double action after decocking...A lot of people say that this is no problem, but I always prefered the trigger pull to be consistent, either DA or SA, from shot to shot.
 
Steyr, and Glock, have the lowest bore axis and Sig has one of the highest bore axis. Also Sig trigger pull and reset are longer.
 
Where can you get spare parts for the Steyr? Just imagine if you need to replace worn parts you'll be having some fun trying to locate them before the next match.
 
I own a couple sigs and they are truly great pistols, however I wouldn't use them for IPSC. For me the high bore axis and DA first shot, coupled with the less obvious SA reset make them considerably slower than my glocks which have a faster recovery and quicker trigger. Haven't shot a Steyr but I understand it is quite similar to Glock. I assume the Steyrs' are production approved?

Dave
 
Although I liked my Steyr, I found the magwell angle/width made quick, smooth mag changes more difficult than the Sig...
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the gloss blue finish on steyr mags and the polymer frame make for some smooth mag changes. I find it's easier to do than with my 92..OK maybe not easier just not as smooth...
I was also thinking about the sights; Steyr sights are great for short range shooting; the fat front sight is awesome for fast follow up shots. Trap sights may not be the best for 25yard bullseys shooting although the gun is scary accurate with a shoulder stock, so I think it may not be the sights...
 
SIGs are available with either short reset SA/DA triggers or DAK now. The Steyrs I have run on the range keep having trigger problems. One was sent for repair 4 months ago, and is still not back. I don't see them as particularly reliable.
 
The Sigs may have a higher bore axis, but there is also more mass to them than your average polymer framed gun, especially if you get one with a Stainless frame & slide.
 
I find mass not to be as important as bore axis when it comes to follow up shots;

92FS weights about as much as P226 and has lower bore axis, but still has more muzzle jump than Steyr (I was surprised myself)
 
Mass makes a large difference. I've fired my p220 in .45 (alloy frame) side by side with an all stainless p220 with the same ammunition. Apples to apples;)
 
IMHO for IPSC (production div) I would go with the Sig.

The Steyr is cheaper initial cost, and the sights look cool/maybe faster.

The Steyr mag well sucks hard. Quick mag changes are gonna take some serious work and even then, you'll still hang it up from time to time. Sig mag changes are far smoother.

The Steyr lower bore axis (compared to the Sig) might be slightly faster, but if you're asking this question, you're not really gonna notice it that much. Sigs are heavier (even with an aluminum frame) then Steyrs and should be easier to control. This would offset a bit of the higher bore axis issue. A stainless Sig would be even heavier with less flip.

The Steyr shot to shot is consistently the same, no SA vs DA issues. I perfer the Sig DA first shot and SA for all other shots. That means for a 7 stage comp, only 7 rds are DA with the other 80+rds SA.

At the end of the day, I think a lot of it comes down to what you like, pure and simple.

The Steyr looks cool, but the Sig just rocks. If you have a little extra coin, get a stainless Sig and enjoy.

O'Kelly's Boys
 
it's been a while since I touched a Sig :redface: , but I know that it has more muzzle jump than Beretta...(both weigh the same, sig has a higher bore). I also know for a fact that my Steyr is easier to control than my heavier larger Beretta...bore axis and grip angle makes all the diff. ;)

Steyr mag well is not the best but the mags are tapered so it doesn't seem to matter (it's not a single stack gun), and as I mentioned the gloss mag finish goes quite well with the plastic frame...:)

I just hope I won't be going 'backwards' with the Sig...
 
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