Sig Sauer slide release

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My P226 was failing to lock back and I know it's not the gun, it's my grip. I am not alone with this problem, a lot of people are having similar issue - thumb is riding slide release. Is the engineer who design this was a thumbless or something? :) Anyways, I did some bending of my release to bring it close to the grip and after dry firing sessions it seems like its much better, my thumb is not touching it anymore. But only real day at the range will tell. Anyone has a different solution?

This how mine is looks like, sorry didn't take before picture:HR:, it was sticking out quite a bit. Now it's flush
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I use a different grip. My strong thumb sits ontop my weak thumb so it is never anywhere near the slide release. But i understand a lot of people who are used to shooting with 1911's have this problem.
 
voxdei said:
I use a different grip. My strong thumb sits ontop my weak thumb so it is never anywhere near the slide release. But i understand a lot of people who are used to shooting with 1911's have this problem.
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Yup, that's the answer - the strong hand thumb locks the weak hand thumb to the dust cover. Actually it works quite well to stabilize the grip too.
 
I had mine before I got a 1911 and didn't have an issue with it. I actually liked the slide release location as it's not as far of a reach and easier to get to making it a more comfy and faster transition to get into battery after a mag change but I can see if you're used to having your thumb there how it could be a problem.
 
Hogue rubber grips worked for me as they are thicker and protected the slide release. Put the original hardwood ones back on since I don't use it for IDPA anymore. Those also protect the slide release, but don't have the grippy-ness of the hogue.
 
I don't have this issue with 226/220 but I do with 225 for some reason.

I am left handed so my issue is slightly different but because of the same reason. For me when I rack the slide in an overhand fashion the meat of my left index finger pushes the slide release up and locking the slide to the rear. Its a pain in the ass when trying to get a good tome on qualifications lol.

If i could I would do the same on my issue gun, but cant. My personal guns I have done this to.

Shawn
 
shawn said:
Personally, I don't like sling shot, gross versus fine motor skill.

Shawn
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It has to do with the amount of practice with the procedure, nothing to do with gross or fine or muscle memory.

What it is, is you practice, practice, practice, practice and then practice some more until the movement become instinctual, then you don't think about them, you just do. It takes more than 10 times in front of the mirror, and even longer to reset a bad habit.
 
NavyCuda said:
It has to do with the amount of practice with the procedure, nothing to do with gross or fine or muscle memory.

What it is, is you practice, practice, practice, practice and then practice some more until the movement become instinctual, then you don't think about them, you just do. It takes more than 10 times in front of the mirror, and even longer to reset a bad habit.
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You are right about practice.

Muscle memory and fine and gross motor skills are not the same thing tho. The fine vs gross thing comes in when you are working in the black. Things like auditory exclusion, tunnel vision and loss of fine motor skills.

I carry for work, I train to give me the best possible odds. That for me means not relying on something that I physiologically may not be able to do reliably under stress.

Shawn
 
Unless you are overhand racking with both elbows or knees to grip the slide, you're using a fine motor skill. Hands = fine motor control.

If you can train your hands to work the hammer release switch, you can train them to work the slide release switch. The same is true with gross motor skills...if you train yourself correctly you can perform a slapshot while skating. If you haven't trained yourself, you can't. Gross vs. fine means nothing...training muscles is training muscles.

Of course if you REALLY insist on gross motor skills being easier to perform under stress, I suggest a simple test based on some entertaining commentary I heard on another site...


To perform the test:

Attempt the following while under severe stress, say, outer layers of clothing on fire. Something to really put the pressure on. Pour some flammable liquid on your jeans, and light it. You have a few seconds before it gets really hot and starts to burn you, so the pressure will be really intense. Have someone standing by with a fire extinguisher to rescue you if things go wrong.

Now try each of the following actions:

1) a backflip

2) operate a click pen

If you found you had an easier time with the backflip than the click pen, you are definitely someone who should base their training around gross motor skills, because you are clearly better at performing gross motor skills under pressure. Only gross motor skills are required to perform a standing backflip, so this one should be pretty easy.

If you found it easier to operate the click pen, then you are some kind of freak, because that required fine motor skills, which are impossible to use under pressure.
 
LOL that sounds like a fun test!

Though the gross VS fine motor skills under stress fact is true, it's important to understand anything with your fingers is fine motor skills so slide release, overhand, slingshot = all fine motor skills. Training to build long term potentiation can overcome this. Think of a fighter pilot who undergoes severe stress and yet is able to locate and push a tiny button in a sea of tiny buttons because of the hours and hours of training.

The way I explain it when someone says they don't want to use the slide release post-reload because it's a fine motor skill and can fail under stress: I just tell them that they won't even have to worry about reloading then because they won't be able to push the mag release under stress.
 
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