Signs of XCR

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Got this from AR15.com. Glad I am finally seeing the evidence of XCR's existence :) It's been so long a wait. Anyhow, here it goes.

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Overall we are all very pleased with the guns. Mine was the only one to have any hiccups during the 300 rounds break in, but has been good to go since.

Two of us are full time officers and have access to PD issued guns and choose to carry the XCR.

As for reliability, they are boring in that with good magazines they work every time. I have one 20 rounder that seems to be suspect. We are all running on position 3 on the gas setting at it eats the wolf practice ammo without problem.

It is amazing how clean the guns work. The newest gun was taken straight to the range without cleaning the shipping oil and it was pretty wet. After 4-500 rounds, all that it needed was a wipe down and the bore cleaned. Probably not the recommended process as I would have preferred the officer clean it before shooting.

As for the reported recall, Robinson sent the new disconnectors out quickly and the trigger is very nice with the new piece. The first stage is a little shorter now, but everything is smooth and crisp. It makes me want a two stage trigger on my other guns now.

We still have not formally tested for groups, but shot patterns on the qual courses run the tightest in the department. Wether this is a result of the accuracy of the gun or how well it points and swings, I don't know.

With the un interrupted top rail, optics can be mounted with ease. Any AR rail sight can be used, although I don't really like the high sight plan that results. There is nothing wrong with the AR sights on the gun and they are comfortable to use, I just would like something lower.

I will probably make some custom sights for myself that sit low to the receiver. I pulled out a G3 front sight assembly and it was at the perfect height with respect to the barell, gas tube, and top rail. Something similar in height to HK sights would be perfect. I have a spare rear HK sight and am going to see if I can get a base made. This should allow the irons to sight through the lower third of a low optic. Front sight is still up in the air as I don't really like the HK front sight. I have a flip sight that I can cut down easily to use up front.

As it is now, the red dot has great battery life and proven to be very reliable. I change batteries every 6 months and carry one in the grip, so the lack of irons is not a real issue for me at this time.

Ergonomics are about perfect for me. All of us ordered the length of pull that was comfortable and are happy with the lack of an adjustable stock. I love the charging handle and bolt release. I would not change anything here. The trigger is nice as stated above and the shorter throw on the safety is nice as well. As we train that the gun is on safe until you are on target, snap shots are nicer with the shorter throw.

The adjustable gas regulator is a mixed blessing. By that I mean that it is not quickly adjusted, but that also keeps people from playing with the regulator as well. The adjustments are precise and there is no way to get between settings.

Overall I could not be happier with the gun. I will add a 6.8 SPC conversion when it becomes available. If they make a .308, I have a feeling I will get one as well.

The "2 week" wait was annoying, but it was worth the wait. All three of us feel this way.

I don't know if this is another hoax, what do you think? It doesn't LOOK like these guys are RobArm employee passing themselves off as LE officers. But there has been so many bogus stories about XCR, I can't get my bearing straight... But I hope this is the sign that even slowly, XCRs are coming our way.
 
those look like official shirts. :rolleyes: I have never seen a shirt that said SWAT or POlice, or FBI on a civilian/non le person.:D
I'm trying to be funny. :)
But, maybe it is true..........................................:eek:
 
I know! That's why I don't want to just believe everything about XCR. It's so confusing, what with all the mixed sightings out there, it's like XCR's a frigging Sasquatch or something...
 
I hear ya, I have my name on the "list". I sold my perfectly functioning armalite Carbine OVER a year ago, as I wanted to get the XCR. BIG mistake. Going well over a year waiting. I still might get one. I am thinking a 16" mid-length, maybe armalite again, or RRA lower and armalite upper.
 
If I'm not dying for legal-to-carry-in-the-woods 'assault' type rifles, then I wouldn't even wait for it. But being that it's Canada, we don't have much choice in that department, I hear. If I visit range alot, then I wouldn't hesitate to get some ARs for shooting pleasure.

I wonder how much it would cost to relocate my family to Colorado or Arizona...
 
It looks like two of the guys in the first picture are resting the weight of their guns on the 30 round magazines...hmmm
 
More of "supposed" XCR owner pics from AR15.com
The one with news paper looks a bit promising.

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We'll see. I think it will take at least good 2 years before anythings been properly tested of these XCRs, and we know about their performance and reliability. I think it took that much for M96 to be known as well.
I hope it is as reliable as they say it is, cause it would make more sense to just get CZ858. But IF they can come up with 18.6" barrel and 7.62X39, then I'll definitely get one, as being able to use all them AR accessories would be hard to beat.
 
Donny Fenn1 said:
"will be overpriced and issue-prone compared to the AR15" which had "issues" for what? 20 odd years before all the bugs were worked out?
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You're right, every rifle has its helping of issues. Rifle-neutral issues such as corrosion are easily solved today. I'm more concerned with rifle and manufacturer-specific issues such as timing problems and cracked rails and receivers.
 
I don't think problems like structural failure such as cracked receiver you've mentioned would be problem with manufacturer liek RobArm. Modern metallurgy has advanced far beyond when first M16 came out, and company like RobArm wouldn't mess around with inferior design. Granted, it may not be as strong as some other 'benchmark' brand rifles, but I don't think a rifle like XCR would enxperience 'cracked' receiver. Although it did not get it, XCR WAS submitted for military contract try-out, and I don't think they would manufacture something so inferior.
 
How is it flimsy? Give us some more detail, so we can vicariously experience this mythical beast. I mean you are the first person who has acutally held the rifle.
 
I handled a few at the SHOT show in Feb.
I expect that show samples are picked over very thouroughly, to be certain they are solid and tight, etc.
I really hadn't followed this gun very much prior to seeing it, now I am interested in it.

GT says it is made from a 6 series aluminum. That refers to the different alloys, and the different metals that are mixed with AL to get various effects.
Most structural extrusions are from 6061, as it has good weldability, and good strength. Boats use a 5000 series as that has better corrosion resistance, and aircraft wing spars are made from 7075 alloy. 7075 very strong, and very "springy", so it is a good choice for wing spars, but it is NOT weldable, so it is no good for fabricating with (I am a metal fabricator).
I believe the AR-15 uses 7075 if not mistaken.
Depending on how the XCR locks up, and how the stresses are distributed, 6061 may be an acceptable choice.
 
I saw and held one at last years SAR show. I thought it was heavy and solid. I did not like the bolt hold open and they may have made it nicer since then.
 
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