Simple question: Open carrying...
- Thread starter datnig
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It is completely legal one you have your license to open carry a rifle during daylight hours not in hunting season. In the dark I believe your long gun needs to be encased if not in use but not in storage. The only people in Canada who can conceal carry a pistol other than the Police and criminals are Judges, Politicians and another equally small group that eludes me at the moment.
Having said that about long guns, I don't suggest you walk around with a long gun not in a case in a downtown metropolitan area or you will likely be visited and assisted to the ground abruptly by many upstanding folks in blue or black uniforms.
Having said that about long guns, I don't suggest you walk around with a long gun not in a case in a downtown metropolitan area or you will likely be visited and assisted to the ground abruptly by many upstanding folks in blue or black uniforms.
I have a few questions after this kind lawyer, so carrying a pistol to the grocery store is illegal? Also why would one get arrested for open carry if it is legal? It doesn't make sense to me...
What does my username have to do with anything? And this is a serious question that I've been wondering about and never got a straight answer on using google.
Carrying a non restricted openly although legal, is not really a smart idea. Out in the woods hiking or somthing is fine. In town a cop is not going to know your licensed and is going to assume your up to no good so you will be arrested or atleast spoken to.
Handguns (being restricted firearms) need an ATT (authotization to transport) permit to be taken anywhere. And they have to be transported unloaded, trigger locked and locked in a box or case. So no, u can't take your pistol out for a trip to the grocery store.
However, technicaly you can get a permit to carry a handgun concealed (ATC-3) but you need to apply for said permit with your CPFO. Chances of being issued one are VERY VERY slim.
Handguns (being restricted firearms) need an ATT (authotization to transport) permit to be taken anywhere. And they have to be transported unloaded, trigger locked and locked in a box or case. So no, u can't take your pistol out for a trip to the grocery store.
However, technicaly you can get a permit to carry a handgun concealed (ATC-3) but you need to apply for said permit with your CPFO. Chances of being issued one are VERY VERY slim.
There is a social stigma to owning guns in much of Canada. That, combined with ignorance of the firearms laws by the general public, and a great many law enforcement officers, will likely result in a 911 report of a "man with a gun walking down the street".
So, while carrying a non restricted firearm in public is not illegal, ignorance of the law will make it a problem. Therefore....legal, but not smart because you will be the subject of all that attention resulting from the 911 call.
As far as carrying handguns...... there are provisions where someone can get a "carry permit", but unless it's employment related it is very rarely granted for the same reasons listed above. Stigma, ignorance and others.
I suggest you check here
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/
and search alphabetically under F for the Firearms Act, and C for Criminal Code of Canada and start reading.
Also, if you set the search function on this forum to change the search date back to a longer period than a week you will find lots of threads for this topic and save yourself the inevitable flaming.
As said in this thread and other threads, legal doesn't make it smart. Go ahead and see what will happen with totally legal open carry of a NR long gun in downtown Toronto.
I know it seems logical to be able to do something totally legal, but that isn't the world we live in and you will only cause more damage and laws by doing it.
J
I know it seems logical to be able to do something totally legal, but that isn't the world we live in and you will only cause more damage and laws by doing it.
J
You've been the most helpful out of everyone, thank you I'll read over some of the acts in that site.
I always wanted to see a civilian carrying a rifle in downtown Toronto, watch all those people ignorant of there rights spam the police station lol.
Even if carrying the unloaded, non-restricted, firearm downtown was legal, when there's more people around it would become more difficult not to accidentally break another law. For instance, if you accidentally point the muzzle at someone.
Also, if the police saw you, it may also result in them seeing you as a threat to their safety, which means it won't matter if your gun was legal or not. And if someone did get their hand slapped for shooting you down, it would be cold comfort for your family.
This man was carrying a perfectly legal whittling knife when he was gunned down by Seattle police.
Second squad car arrives.
Further to the above, you'd also need to check provincial and municipal regulations, as well as the criminal code. Just because the Federal Law doesn't prevent you from doing something, doesn't mean its not enforced differently at another level of government.
Also, if the police saw you, it may also result in them seeing you as a threat to their safety, which means it won't matter if your gun was legal or not. And if someone did get their hand slapped for shooting you down, it would be cold comfort for your family.
This man was carrying a perfectly legal whittling knife when he was gunned down by Seattle police.
Second squad car arrives.
Further to the above, you'd also need to check provincial and municipal regulations, as well as the criminal code. Just because the Federal Law doesn't prevent you from doing something, doesn't mean its not enforced differently at another level of government.
Yep, and watch all those new laws and the ban this ban that start because someone could not use reason and common sense to not walk downtown with a gun even though it was totally "legal".
Legal does not make it smart everywhere every time.
J
Don't take this the wrong way datnig, but you really really really need to start reading the Legalese section, the Media section, Alerts & Discussions. They're all located just underneath the Newbie FAQ. A lot of the topics in there start with "ban"...our country is rather confused when it comes to firearms.
So let me get this straight:
-You were not sure if it was legal to conceal carry in Canada and google didn't help you.
-You're not aware that carrying a pistol to the grocery store is illegal.
-You don't understand why you can't walk around with a rifle in Toronto even though walking with a rifle in the woods is OK.
-Your username sounds a lot like "that nig-" when enunciated out loud.
I'm not too sure that firearms ownership is for you. And if you do get guns, on top of "is it legal", ask yourself "is it stupid" before doing anything.
And be aware that a criminal record may prevent you from getting a license...
-You were not sure if it was legal to conceal carry in Canada and google didn't help you.
-You're not aware that carrying a pistol to the grocery store is illegal.
-You don't understand why you can't walk around with a rifle in Toronto even though walking with a rifle in the woods is OK.
-Your username sounds a lot like "that nig-" when enunciated out loud.
I'm not too sure that firearms ownership is for you. And if you do get guns, on top of "is it legal", ask yourself "is it stupid" before doing anything.
And be aware that a criminal record may prevent you from getting a license...
Jeepers... its a new person in the newbie section asking a couple of newbie questions... get over it already. If you don't like newbies asking newbie questions... here's an idea... don't bother reading posts in the newbie section.
Im with Dakk on this one, at least he didnt post it in the general or legal sections. There’s probably 50 posts a day that should be in the newb section. Also sometimes its easier to just ask people who know at the source instead of trying to find the info on your own. His questions are very straight forward and could be answered very simply, if you don’t have the time then don’t click on the thread. As for the search function, i find it way over complicated.
Here were telling him that ignorance of the law and a stigma about guns is the reason our gun laws are stupid but then were flaming him about asking about the laws? Isnt that counterproductive and hypocritical? Maybe he just moved up here from Texas where you can carry a gun without risking being shot. Maybe that’s why people are so ignorant of the laws, because every time a gun veteran is asked a question we look at them like idiots.
Flaming newbies does nothing for the Canadian gun community. I would say if you cant resist the urge to do it maybe dont browse the newbie section.
Here were telling him that ignorance of the law and a stigma about guns is the reason our gun laws are stupid but then were flaming him about asking about the laws? Isnt that counterproductive and hypocritical? Maybe he just moved up here from Texas where you can carry a gun without risking being shot. Maybe that’s why people are so ignorant of the laws, because every time a gun veteran is asked a question we look at them like idiots.
Flaming newbies does nothing for the Canadian gun community. I would say if you cant resist the urge to do it maybe dont browse the newbie section.
SevenDeuce
Member
VERY well said sir.
+1 on leave "datnig" alone.
The newbie section is supposed to be for newbies like us to ask questions and get answers. Not for you guys to get 'upitty' and accuse us of trolling or asking stupid questions, and notify us how our names sound pronounced aloud (seriously?).
An interesting thought related to the op and responses.
- how the !#*@ are we supposed to remove this stigma if we will be arrested (at best) for lawfully open carrying. Quite frustrating.
The newbie section is supposed to be for newbies like us to ask questions and get answers. Not for you guys to get 'upitty' and accuse us of trolling or asking stupid questions, and notify us how our names sound pronounced aloud (seriously?).
An interesting thought related to the op and responses.
- how the !#*@ are we supposed to remove this stigma if we will be arrested (at best) for lawfully open carrying. Quite frustrating.
