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They are nice rifles, I cant seem to find one in 45-70 though.....

I had a look at the chiappa's, they seem nice and I dont know much about them, they they are listed at about $1400. thats a few bucks more than a SBL or GBL! Also, on their website they show 45-70 ammo next to the rifle with pointed tips in their advertising. I though I had heard a while back that pointed tip ammo with lever actions was a no-no. Can someone verify? Sorry for the sidetrack.

That would be Hornady Leverevolution ammo. Google it. Safe for use in lever actions as it has a rubber tip vice hard plastic.
 
They are nice rifles, I cant seem to find one in 45-70 though.....

I had a look at the chiappa's, they seem nice and I dont know much about them, they they are listed at about $1400. thats a few bucks more than a SBL or GBL! Also, on their website they show 45-70 ammo next to the rifle with pointed tips in their advertising. I though I had heard a while back that pointed tip ammo with lever actions was a no-no. Can someone verify? Sorry for the sidetrack.

Prairie Gun Traders (see their banner at the top of the page) lists them for $999.95
 
The unwritten rule right now is you must handle the new marlins to make sure they are good to go. I spent some time and got one that is good to go. I will get it to the range for some serious work in the next month. I would not throw the baby out with the bathwater, but it is imperative that you see the rifle before you buy it.
 
I left a email to Henry arms as to why they dont have a 45/70 and this was the answer!!

Thank you very much for your interest in Henry Repeating Arms. Yes we hope
to add a 45-70 in 2012. We will keep you posted.

Sincerely,
Anthony Imperato
President

Henry Repeating Arms
59 East 1st Street
Bayonne, NJ 07002

Tel. (201) 858-4400
Fax (201) 858-4435

Email Anthony@henryrepeating.com
Web www.henryrepeating.com

"HENRY RIFLES WILL BE MADE IN AMERICA, OR THEY WON'T BE MADE AT ALL"
 
Well thats good news. I personally would like to see them offered in a stainless version as well as blued. Cosmetically speaking Im a big fan of the SBL, and the henry's arent far off with the large loop option.

I think maybe the rest of us need to start emailing Henry rifles as well to make sure they follow through on the 45-70 for next year!
 
Well thats good news. I personally would like to see them offered in a stainless version as well as blued. Cosmetically speaking Im a big fan of the SBL, and the henry's arent far off with the large loop option.

I think maybe the rest of us need to start emailing Henry rifles as well to make sure they follow through on the 45-70 for next year!
I agree and there making mares leg as well I want the 22!!



http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-mares-leg.cfm
 
From what I've heard the warranty service from Henry has been absolutley excellent. I hope they come out with a .45-70 and keep up the good service!
 
The unwritten rule right now is you must handle the new marlins to make sure they are good to go. I spent some time and got one that is good to go. I will get it to the range for some serious work in the next month. I would not throw the baby out with the bathwater, but it is imperative that you see the rifle before you buy it.

Morpheus, you are absolutely correct. I bought my SBL (JP barrel stamp) in Jan. 2010 and looked at 3 before I chose mine, and today I bought my wife a GBL and looked at 4 before choosing hers. For the most part the triggers are so-so to absolute CRAP, and fit & finish varies widely as well. I will ad an XS Sights ghost ring and probably a Wild West Happy Trigger kit to make hers right.
 
I have a couple of questions for you guys. I have never owned a lever action, nor any other gun made by Marlin for that matter, so I have absolutely no reference to compare to when looking at the new Marlins. So, my questions are:

- What should I be looking for when shopping for a new guide gun to make sure I choose a good one?
- Quality of finish (looks) aside, how are the older 1895's better than the new ones?

I held one of the new 1895 GBL's last week and it stroke me as a fine rifle for the price (a bit less than $600). The finish was definitely not as nice as the finish on the 1886 (Miroku) Winchester standing next to it, but at more than twice the price for the 1886 I though it was normal.

Also, I worked the lever a few times and it felt quite good and reasonably smooth to me. Certainly much better than I was expecting, after reading so many negative comments about them. Unfortunately, I didn't get to work the lever on the 1886 to compare (I might remedy that this weekend, though) but I can say that the only new Lever gun I have handled which had a smoother feel to the lever throw is the Browning BLR. Of course some very old Winchester 1894's I have fondled were smoother, but...

I then checked the trigger to see how abominable it was and guess what? I was again very favorably impressed! I mean, it was by no means comparable to the 2 1/4 lb triggers on my Weatherby MK-V, Winchester M70, Voere KDF or semi custom 10/22, but it was better than the trigger on my Remington 870. Compared to the M870 it was lighter and had less movement, which is quite good for me considering I can get three touching holes at 50m with my 870 Express with smooth 20" barrel. Anyhow, it certainly had a better trigger than all my surplus military rifles; heck, it certainly had a much, much better trigger than my new AR!

All in all, I felt it was quite the nice rifle for the price. Fit and finish was good and it seemed to work well. I might go back and buy it this weekend, if it's still there and if you guys do not convince me to wait for another 6 or 8 months to see how they work out. :)

Finally, am I missing something here with you guys talking about getting a Chiappa rifle for $1,400? I mean, for that much money (roughly) I could buy the very nice Winchester 1886 made by Miroku. What gives?
 
I've owned a few different 45-70's, including a Marlin 1895, a Browning/Miroku 1886 SRC, a Winchester/Miroku 1886 extra light and all were very nice rifles. I would say the finish on the Miroku made guns was nicer, but my Marlin 1895 (bought around 1989) was almost as nice. I cannot speak for the newer Marlins. If I had to make a choice, I would go with what I liked the best. If you like that Marlin, go for it. It sounds like it is a decent gun.
 
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