SKS .223 ?? Available out there?
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There a guy on here who bought an SKS and like most SKS buyers, didn't understand the basic concepts on firearms. Particularly on different guns using different sized cartridges. He shot .223 out of his SKS because a box of it came with the gun and "they are both military cartridges".
Apparently it will fire a .223 round. Round won't chamber or extract properly. Someone find that old thread, it was hilarious.
Apparently it will fire a .223 round. Round won't chamber or extract properly. Someone find that old thread, it was hilarious.
Most sks i've seen dont have the caliber designation engraved somewhere on the rifle. Funny because back in 94, at the old Hub sports in Abbotsford, my father and I were looking at an sks and one of the guys told us it was 223. We were like "are you sure?" He gave us the cartridge and was like this is it! We looked at the muzzle and it clearly was not 223. We should of inserted the bullet end into the muzzle to show him that the case would of almost fitted inside it. This guy clearly didnt know what caliber it was. There was an AK there that was 223 and he probably just went by that caliber.
Some Christmas madness lull mythbusting...
My observations......
Standard Norc sks. mid 80's manuf. complete gun. dummy .223 carts...
A 223. will fit in the mag, 5 not very well.
The .223 will not chamber with the bolt fully closed, the shoulder of neck is higher than that of the x39's shoulder. The bolt would be unlocked and open about 3/8".
So if 1 .223 was inserted and the bolt was withdrawn to chamber it, A.. It would not, the rim is not big enough to depress the follower for the hold open device if inserted to the left side of the mag, the right side it will pop out. B.. If it did get released the round might be cocked at an angle and will jam the action. and or-
I found the following if many cartridges were inserted, A.. The bolt may strip more than one cartridge at a time, B.. The round may just pop out of the action and not chamber at all(I found this if the round inserted lay on the follower to the right side of the mag with more or less than full, I suspect since the .223 is smaller in dia. to the x39.).
So someone might have had the gun fire at one point time... by some part of the bolt coming in contact with the primer when cycled and detonating it(ex. a partly open bolt slamfire, or I guess if the round was fully drivin into the chamber and came to full lock up, to be able to fire... I could not reproduce nor was going to try.)
... for the most part not by pulling the trigger....
That being said, with many other rifles with conversions to/from .223/5.56 and 7.62x39, an sks with this caliber would be cool, not mention if it had a AR type magazine magwell and acceptability (wow a full 10 rnds finally with LAR mags )
My observations......
Standard Norc sks. mid 80's manuf. complete gun. dummy .223 carts...
A 223. will fit in the mag, 5 not very well.
The .223 will not chamber with the bolt fully closed, the shoulder of neck is higher than that of the x39's shoulder. The bolt would be unlocked and open about 3/8".
So if 1 .223 was inserted and the bolt was withdrawn to chamber it, A.. It would not, the rim is not big enough to depress the follower for the hold open device if inserted to the left side of the mag, the right side it will pop out. B.. If it did get released the round might be cocked at an angle and will jam the action. and or-
I found the following if many cartridges were inserted, A.. The bolt may strip more than one cartridge at a time, B.. The round may just pop out of the action and not chamber at all(I found this if the round inserted lay on the follower to the right side of the mag with more or less than full, I suspect since the .223 is smaller in dia. to the x39.).
So someone might have had the gun fire at one point time... by some part of the bolt coming in contact with the primer when cycled and detonating it(ex. a partly open bolt slamfire, or I guess if the round was fully drivin into the chamber and came to full lock up, to be able to fire... I could not reproduce nor was going to try.)
... for the most part not by pulling the trigger....
That being said, with many other rifles with conversions to/from .223/5.56 and 7.62x39, an sks with this caliber would be cool, not mention if it had a AR type magazine magwell and acceptability (wow a full 10 rnds finally with LAR mags )
Apparently Norinco did make sks in .223, im sure they will be hard to find though
www.tirito.com.ar/Venta/ArmasLargas/html/SKS_139.htm
www.tirito.com.ar/Venta/ArmasLargas/html/SKS_139.htm
apparently not
Read on another forum that marstar imported them years ago, maybe John can confirm or deny
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It's not apocryphal. There were some brought over, but are rare.
read the chinese SKS sticky , there is a SKS in 5.56. last year in the norinco site , it was still available.
marstar imported them in several years ago, john said it wasnt too popular and i can understand that, who wants a rifle to cost half the price of a case of 1000 ammo when there are cheap czech ammo around?
but those who bought it sure got a nice return on their investment. there was a member here that spent $800 converting a standard SKS to 5.56 to no avail , feeding issue , he said he was gonna scrap it.
about firing a 5.56 thru a 7.62 , well , it does fit if you slam the carrier and it will fire , albeit the bullet will rattle down the bore and hit the dirt in front of you but it probably would not cycle.
SKS in a 5.56 are very valuable to collectors.
marstar imported them in several years ago, john said it wasnt too popular and i can understand that, who wants a rifle to cost half the price of a case of 1000 ammo when there are cheap czech ammo around?
but those who bought it sure got a nice return on their investment. there was a member here that spent $800 converting a standard SKS to 5.56 to no avail , feeding issue , he said he was gonna scrap it.
about firing a 5.56 thru a 7.62 , well , it does fit if you slam the carrier and it will fire , albeit the bullet will rattle down the bore and hit the dirt in front of you but it probably would not cycle.
SKS in a 5.56 are very valuable to collectors.
I think in order to make a reliable .223 SKS, one would have to build it from the ground-up as a .223 carbine.
I understand that the Russians had to do a lot of work to get the AK series to handle the new 5.45x39 russian, and as such, they had to do substantial modifications to the AK design in order to function reliably with the smaller cartridge.
I understand that the Russians had to do a lot of work to get the AK series to handle the new 5.45x39 russian, and as such, they had to do substantial modifications to the AK design in order to function reliably with the smaller cartridge.
That was the nature of the fellow's post. He was asking for help on why his gun wouldn't function properly. Needless to say, he was shamed into never appearing here again.
He should have had his license revoke on grounds of incompetence.
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SKS + .223 = Ruger Mini-14
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Here's the thread - pure comedy gold.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238229&highlight=sks+223
Here's the thread - pure comedy gold.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238229&highlight=sks+223
And doing so is just asking for trouble.
I have heard of a number of stories of rifles being trashed beyond repair because someone carelessly tried to fire the wrong cartridge in the gun, such as one case where a guy ruined his friend's .308 Norma magnum rifle with a 30.06.
