SKS accuracy question?

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Here is a question for all you sks shooters..how are your groups at 100 yards?Now all i am talking about is a surplus chinese rilfe just cleaned up and takin to the range. The reason i am wondering is because I would like to buy another one just to play with cause we all know that they are cheap but the last 2 i bought i couldnt get better then a 3 shot group that measured about 3 feet at 100 yards:eek:
I tried different ammo in each but the results were always the same,3 shots in 3 feet ,4 shots in 4 feet and so on!! My 12 inch 100 yard gong was very safe and if a gopher wasnt hanging off the end of the barrel i would miss him for sure at 25 yards:rolleyes:
Did i just luck out and get 2 crappy ones that put a bad taste in my mouth or is there a way to at least make these things shoot into oh sayyyyy...3 inches at 100 yards?? Any thoughts,suggestions or good cooking recipes would be greatly appreciated:p (bye the way b4 some one comes up with the flinch thing or the recoil thing or any thing else the smallest calibre i use is 340 wby and regularly use my .458 on gophers :D )
I just wanna buy another one cause i got a lot of ammo here but just dont wanna waste any more money :rolleyes:
 
The SKS wasn't design for accuracy. I saw a slow motion video of an AK in action. Both have similar gas systems. You can see the barrel oscillate before the round left the muzzle. You want accuracy with a 7.62x39, than you need to use a Ruger Mini 30.

I could never get anything better than 3" at 100 yards. I have tested over 20 SKS when my friend had a gunshop that sold milsurps.
 
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I only have experience with the yugos and a couple of the nicer chinese ones all of them would give way better results then your experience, over a sand bag a 3-4 inch 10 shot group at 200 yds is generally the order of the day for the yugos. With lots of rounds in the 3 inch (firing norinco silver box) that super hot russian hunting ammo does'nt do as well.
3 shot cold barrel groups fired with the gas valve closed are very very impressive.

I will get fliers when the bullet gets jammed too deep in the case during cycling. The norinco silver box does this pretty easily. Try a 10 shot group with a good rest loading them one at a time and insuring they are entering the chamber with out the bullet seating deeer. Also make your self a good target with black duct tape so your hold is easier to reproduce. At 100 it starts to get hard to reproduce an identical hold on a target meant for scoped rifles.
My suggestion is get a yugo, they were built to be military rifles and are more then adequate out to 300 yds. the Norincos were built to aqquire foriegn capitial and were never meant to pass any militaries acceptance test. There are good Chinese made SKS s out there and it is easy to see the quality difference.
Don't give up on the SKS they are great rifles and alot of fun. If you do give up on em I'll buy what ever NC ammo you have left over.LOL.
 
I think mine shoots pretty good. 5 shots from the bench at 100 yds . 1953 Chinese type 56 using Norinko steel case soft point ammo.

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I've found that bedding problems cause a lot of headaches with the SKS. Both my SKS's have gone from 8"+ groupings at 100 yards to 3"-4" at 100 yards.

I bed at the rear lugs:

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The bolt reinforce:

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and the front of the stock under the sheet metal lug:

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It only takes an afternoon of work, some of that "automotive steel epoxy", some car wax, and a dremel tool.

I've also found that the trigger assembly should be very tight so some bedding or some shim stock is appropriate in that location too.
 
SKS accuracy

I have 2 both of which will do about 4" at 100 yards. In my humble opinion thats pretty good for a cheap rifle with cheap surplus ammo.
 
I can nail the gong at Poco (220m, I believe) 8 out of 10 times consistently with mine through the irons...good enuf for a $135 rifle! I have never done any sort of accuracy test with it, and probably wont. If I need to be accurate, this would be the last rifle in my collection I would grab. But for sheer cheap fun, it cant be beat!:D
 
The absolute best I have personally seen is 4 "
What I have found is usually 1-2 rounds out of five go for a wander and screw up the group .
They almost always hit the paper ( 8" )
Tudemon is correct , tightening up the fit helps alot .
A 3' group seems a tad bit large , the rifle is capable of better .
 
I bedded a Norc SKS I got from Century Arms (thems were the days). It shot consistently in that 2 to 3" type groups. I think bedding can do wonders for this and other military semis.

The next one I play with will even get bolted together. I want it locked up solid in that stock.

What impressed me most was shooting out to 250yds. No tack driver but certainly minute of stump. Well, that is a target the size of the monitor most of us are looking at (17"). Wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of some directed fire...

The SKS is a battle rifle and offers battle useful accuracy. As a battle rifle, its first goal is to function ie go bang. This it does very well (arguably better then the standard AR). The next is launching some lead in the general direction intended. Two for two...

Jerry
 
Laniru said:
I can nail the gong at Poco (220m, I believe) 8 out of 10 times consistently with mine through the irons...good enuf for a $135 rifle! I have never done any sort of accuracy test with it, and probably wont. If I need to be accurate, this would be the last rifle in my collection I would grab. But for sheer cheap fun, it cant be beat!:D

:D :D yah, I think the shooter matters.
 
mysticplayer said:
The next one I play with will even get bolted together. I want it locked up solid in that stock.Jerry

I'd really like to see how you do that, as far as I can tell the SKS "hinges" on the very front of the stock and pinches at the very rear, not a good set up at all especially since it's not possible to free float the barrel. If you can tie the action down in two places it could make one hell of a difference!
 
With my Yugo 59/66 I can hit the "gong" at the end of my local range, most likely 20 meters past the 300 meter target stands. I think it is around 20" in diameter and I can hit it 4 out of 5 times reliably using Norinco Silverbox ammo. On the other hand though, I had a Norinco SKS in a ATI side folding stock that shot 12" patterns (not groups, patterns) at 100 meters using the same ammo. I think that quality varies quite highly in these old war horses. I have a Lever Arms Nork coming in and I hope it is more accurate than the one I used to have. It has 1120 rounds of Czech to go through this summer and I would like to actually be able to hit the targets.
 
It seems that every SKS is different. I've shot 4 and they all seem to do one thing or the other better than the previous one. One is a tack driver at 50 yards and iffy after that. One can ring the plate at 300 (once in a while). Another, I don't know cause i don't have an 8' target to see where the hell it's going! But I do think a good trigger feel is important, and as we know, some rifles suck bad. Most of the fits are bad too, with a very loose feel. The one that is the tightest(I have to knock the barrel assembly out of the stock with a wood drift, and work like hell to pop out the trigger) prob shoots the best. This one has really tight pins on the receiver and gas tube/handguard and the fit on these parts is very secure. But the others are loose.
Tudemon has something there.
It's funny that this thread came up now as I was thinking of trying to bed an SKS. Is the idea to fill the gaps in the stock where stock and barrel meet? Or is there more to it than that? Any info links would be appreciated
 
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