SKS Bullpup Modifications

[ndmuscutt]

I don't know if this is the correct forum to post this thread, but I have an SKS and am wanting to install the Shernic Gun Works bullpup stock onto it. Now, I know that the import of bullpup stocks which place the magazine behind the trigger are illegal, but is there a law prohibiting a bullpupped SKS into Canada. The barrel length and length of the rifle are within legal parameters. If you're not familiar with the Shernic SKS bullpup modification, please check this out: http://sgworks.com/

I Emailed SGW and they responded with the following:

Hello,

Yes, our kit works with stripper clips.

We can only ship to a US address.

According to Canadian law, it is illegal for a bullpup to be imported. Based on the law is written, not what Canadian bureaucrats feel the law should mean, you can bring your bullpupped SKS rifle from the US to Canada. We are not an FFL and can't ship a bullpupped SKS. We believe if you come down to the US to a sanctioned shoot or to go hunting, disable your gun by replacing the OEM trigger assembly and replace it with our Trigger Link (you could ship your OEM trigger to your Canada address) and take it back over the border saying that it is not a bullpup stock (the law says no bullpups stocks) rather it is a bullpupped SKS firearm. (By the way, you are able to buy bullpupped guns inCanada just not bullpup stocks) The Bullpupped SKS meets all regulations regarding length and 5-round fixed magazines.

Here are the laws we see below that state bullpup stocks are not allowed to Canada:

Canadian Border Regulations
http://recherche-search.gc.ca/s_r?t3mpl1t34d=1&s5t34d=cbsa&l7c1l3=eng&S_08D4T.1ct57n=search&S_08D4T.s3rv5c3=basic&S_F8LLT2XT=restricted+devices&S_C6LL2CT46N.f53ld=fulltext&S_C6LL2CT46N=&S_S20RCH.l1ng91g3=eng
it says:

3. Brochure 8
3 Prohibited Weapons and Devices....................... .. 3 Replica firearms (prohibited devices)............. 4 Firearms

URL: cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5044-eng.pdf
Modified: 2012-02-10
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Language: English
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Canadian Minister of Justice Current to May 14, 2012

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/PDF/SOR-98-462.pdf

url for thread on bullpups:
http://community.ashworthcollege.edu/thread/6101

If you are interested, we can let you know what we believe is the only way you can legally acquire one.

Thank you and have a great day,

SGW

I would like to know your thoughts. If what SGW works, I will take my SKS with stock and trigger removed over to the U.S. and modify the rifle with the SGW bullpup stock and bring it back into the country. Apparently the law is against the import of stocks and not against the import of bullpupped rifles, like the Tavor.

PROHIBITED DEVICES
Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 9

1. Any electrical or mechanical device that is designed or adapted to operate the trigger mechanism of a semi-automatic firearm for the purpose of causing the firearm to discharge cartridges in rapid succession.

2. Any rifle, shotgun or carbine stock of the typeknown as the “bull-pup” design, being a stock that, when combined with a firearm, reduces the overall length of the firearm such that a substantial part of the reloading action or the magazine-well is located behind the trigger of the firearm when it is held in the normal firing position

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[RobertMcC]

Your putting a bull pup stock on a SKS, and still will be a SKS, but with a bull pup stock. Big difference then a gun imported and designed already as a bull pup rifle.

 

[Wingnut91]

Don't do it! The only way it's legal to have a bullpup in Canada (if I remember correctly) is if the stock is integral to the rifle-meaning if you remove the stock, the rifle cannot be fired...if you take that stock off the sks, you still have an sks that can be fired...

 

[tiriaq]

The stock is a prohibited device. On the gun or off the gun it is a prohibited device.

The Tavor does not have a stock as such. The ergonomic features are not a separate stock. It does not have a stock as such, so the prohibition of bullpup stocks does not apply.

 

[emerson]

You are looking at prison time. If it wasn't manufactured that way it's prohib.

 

[charles u farley]

IBTL

 

[ndmuscutt]

I don't need to hear anymore! Thanks guys for the input. I already think I'll be losing sleep over this now just having entertained the thought. Looks like I'll be looking for other options.

 

[Far North]

Sounds cool but you would be removing an item that is probably ITAR controlled from the sates and definitely prohibited in Canada so double whammy.

 

[9x19p]

just to see it in black and white...

From the criminal code

PART 4
PROHIBITED DEVICES

1.#Any electrical or mechanical device that is designed or adapted to operate the trigger mechanism of a semi-automatic firearm for the purpose of causing the firearm to discharge cartridges in rapid succession.
2.#Any rifle, shotgun or carbine stock of the type known as the “bull-pup” design, being a stock that, when combined with a firearm, reduces the overall length of the firearm such that a substantial part of the reloading action or the magazine-well is located behind the trigger of the firearm when it is held in the normal firing position.

 

[zuke]

It's not a good idea to do.

 

[sunray]

You can't take your SKS with stock and trigger removed over to the U.S. either.

 

[onetwentyish]

 

[vancity]

What if the receiver was welded into the stock prior to importation?

 

[fenceline]

The SKS in the bullpup stock would still be a non-restricted firearm.

The bullpup stock attached to it would be a prohibited device.

Apart or together, their legal status doesn't change. The stock is always prohibited, and the stockless sks is still non-restricted. Their legal status is individual to each, just like pistol mags don't change the status of a semi auto rifle if used in a rifle.

 

[fenceline]

What if the receiver was welded into the stock prior to importation?

The stock is prohibited device on its own. Doesn't need to be use with anything else. On or off a sks, it is still the prohibited item.