SKS front sight block and brake help

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I am looking to make my SKS shoot a little better. I'm thinking about getting better iron sights, a trigger job and maybe a brake.

So I'm thinking about taking the factory front sight block off to remove the bayonet lug and save some front end weight. I am wondering if there is a reliable polymer or aluminum front sight out there to replace it? Or what is the best option? It needs to be windage adjustable.

I'm also interested in a brake to reduce muzzle flip that screws on. What are the best options for that? And do the brakes actually help?

Thanks for any help. I hope there's a few gurus here who know best ;)
 
ht tp://hical.ca/trueshot-sks-front-sight-conversion/

This requires that the whole front sight assembly be removed before this can be installed. Threading is there for a brake or AK style flash hider. There are tons of after market replacement beads for the AK.

Hical also sells the tool for removal of the front sight.

MLRS
 
Your biggest limitation will still be the inherent inconsistency of surplus ammo, unless you use better ammo. Try using higher quality ammo before you go down the rabbit hole.
Bigger gains can be made focusing on stock fit. Trigger work is another high reward area.
 
Agreed. Reface, recrown and chamfer the muzzle also helps.

PinkyPlinker said:
Your biggest limitation will still be the inherent inconsistency of surplus ammo, unless you use better ammo. Try using higher quality ammo before you go down the rabbit hole.
Bigger gains can be made focusing on stock fit. Trigger work is another high reward area.
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MLRS said:
ht tp://hical.ca/trueshot-sks-front-sight-conversion/

This requires that the whole front sight assembly be removed before this can be installed. Threading is there for a brake or AK style flash hider. There are tons of after market replacement beads for the AK.

Hical also sells the tool for removal of the front sight.

MLRS
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Would this save any weight? And is the fsb itself thread on?

Also, if installed, u would need a windage adjustable rear sight to achieve an accurate zero right?
 
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Maybe I'm missing something but not seeing how the HiCal front sight is a better sight. Seems to me it's designed for shortening your barrel (and appears to be great for that) but not a better sight picture for increased accuracy.

The only sight I've seen that actually increases SKS accuracy is the Tech Sight 200 and the Tech Sight thin target front post. It works on the "aim small, miss small" concept.

Agree with advice on stock fit & trigger job. Better ammo is good as well, however when you weigh the cost for gain increase I'm not sure it ever really works out for the SKS.

To me it's 2-300m, about 4 MOA weapon with surplus & irons .... call it a day with that.

Start going down the money pit hole with an SKS and might as well head into the AR arena for increased accuracy (albeit restricted).

I love the SKS, however I think accepting it's limitations and working with them is the whole key to that rifle. And it takes some skill to keep it in that 4 MOA area ! If you accept that's all it will do and don't let it frustrate you, it's a viable platform to work on skills. Keeping it within that roughly 4" circle at 100 m is just as much skill as shooting MOA or less at 100m. I don't care where it hits within that 4" circle, as long as it's in there. It's the same skill set and difficulty as ragged hole bolt action groups.

As for the break, it can certainly help with the right choice. I've yet to bother with one on the SKS, but I've been thinking about it.

To my line of thinking for the SKS ... recoil is no big deal. So the small AK slant break to help with muzzle climb would be the way to go. Thread the end of the barrel, time it the way you need for effectiveness. It adds little length/weight and inexpensive .... keeping inline with the SKS limitations idea.

Only other SKS mod that seems like it would be an improvement to me would be supernova's trigger over-travel mod. That makes a lot of sense for this style of trigger.
 
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madashell said:
To my line of thinking for the SKS ... recoil is no big deal. So the small AK slant break to help with muzzle climb would be the way to go.
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Something to be said that, yes. The thread adaptors are 12USD on aliexpress.
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Only other SKS mod that seems like it would be an improvement to me would be supernova's trigger over-travel mod. That makes a lot of sense for this style of trigger.
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You could drill a hole in the back of the triggerguard, and use a headless bolt with 2 hex nuts on each end, no tapping needed. Once set and tested, loctite it up.
supernova is here: https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...-SKS-shorty?highlight=sks+trigger+over-travel
 
Juster said:
Something to be said that, yes. The thread adaptors are 12USD on aliexpress.

You could drill a hole in the back of the triggerguard, and use a headless bolt with 2 hex nuts on each end, no tapping needed. Once set and tested, loctite it up.
supernova is here: https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...-SKS-shorty?highlight=sks+trigger+over-travel
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Juster,

Do you have a direct link for that thread adaptor ? Looked but couldn't find it.

Very good idea on the tap-less trigger over-travel mod !
Thanks.
 
Be careful with the overtravel mod, especially if you have the early trigger group without the rebound disconnector.
Get too tight with it, and you're prone to doubling, a phenomenon where more than one round goes off.
Slack it off a touch so you have some overtravel.
Also, polish and grease the interface the sear slides along. Not only will it smoothen the trigger pull, but it'll enhance the sear's ability to tuck itself back under the hammer's claw before it has a chance to "double".
 
Bubba Yugga said:
Be careful with the overtravel mod, especially if you have the early trigger group without the rebound disconnector.
Get too tight with it, and you're prone to doubling, a phenomenon where more than one round goes off.
Slack it off a touch so you have some overtravel.
Also, polish and grease the interface the sear slides along. Not only will it smoothen the trigger pull, but it'll enhance the sear's ability to tuck itself back under the hammer's claw before it has a chance to "double".
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Good advice. I decided to remove my over travel screw after testing the rifle following a trigger job I did to it. It "doubled" on me in the first mag.

To the OP, why not just cut the Bayo lug off? That's what I did to mine. I figure it negates the extra weight added by the short muzzle brake from Hical.



 
madashell said:
Juster,

Do you have a direct link for that thread adaptor ? Looked but couldn't find it.

Very good idea on the tap-less trigger over-travel mod !
Thanks.
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Search for "Free Shipping Hunting Tactical M14 x 1 LH AK/SKS Thread Adaptor"
Store:Amber Li's Store 428215
Or
http://hical.ca/sks-to-ak-thread-adapter/
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Any trigger mods, test with 1 round at a time, good safety point. The gun should stay cocked after each shot.
 
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mikeystew said:
Good advice. I decided to remove my over travel screw after testing the rifle following a trigger job I did to it. It "doubled" on me in the first mag.

To the OP, why not just cut the Bayo lug off? That's what I did to mine. I figure it negates the extra weight added by the short muzzle brake from Hical.



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mikeystew,

I like that SKS !! Nicely done.

How's the HiCal rear sight and the break ?

I've always wondered how that sight stacks up compared to the Tech Sight 200. Have read many times that break has some play in it.
 
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Bubba Yugga said:
Be careful with the overtravel mod, especially if you have the early trigger group without the rebound disconnector.
Get too tight with it, and you're prone to doubling, a phenomenon where more than one round goes off.
Slack it off a touch so you have some overtravel.
Also, polish and grease the interface the sear slides along. Not only will it smoothen the trigger pull, but it'll enhance the sear's ability to tuck itself back under the hammer's claw before it has a chance to "double".
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Interesting ... didn't know this. Thanks for the heads up.

Unless you're going for the early AR 3 round burst setting !
 
Thanks for all your help guys. It seems like the rifle will always be a 4 moa rifle (or worse) even with extensive mods. Ill just accept it for what it is and save up for a vz or that type 81 ;)

Or ill talk my buddy into moding his and see if its worth it...:evil::evil::evil:

thanks for help. Your rifles look great and the mod ideas are neat.
 
Craftsman said:
That's a classy Sks mikeystew. Looks tidy
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Thanks man! It's my current pet project.

madashell said:
mikeystew,

I like that SKS !! Nicely done.

How's the HiCal rear sight and the break ?

I've always wondered how that sight stacks up compared to the Tech Sight 200. Have read many times that break has some play in it.
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Thanks, as for the muzzle brake it came on the gun when I bought it, and it's on there TIGHT! However I don't know how the previous owner mounted it as its not pinned like it's supposed to be. It's just on there. And TIGHT!

I like the rear peep. Mainly, I like that I can still take the gun apart without tools and it's better than the leaf sight.
 
Id say cut the bayo lug off, either add that short pin on brake that Mikeystew has (which is a GREAT little brake from my experience) ... OR pay hical the $69 to thread your muzzle for 14mmLH to accept AK muzzle brakes...
 
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