SKS, is one better then others?

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I have been thinking about picking up a SKS. I have had many other milsurps over the years (Swedes, Enfields) but never had much interest in these. I was at Cdn Tire the other day and was talking with the clerk and he asked "why not "? I thought , good question! Ammo is inexpensive and I kinda liked the look of the rifle.

So my question for you, my learned friends is ... are there preferred years? are they all chromed barrels ? Russian, Chinese ?

Do all the magazines come out or are they fixed ?

What do I look for ?

thanks in advance.
 
Magazines come out once you remove the trigger group.

Right now prices for Chinese sks are crazy $400 for an unfired rifle. $200 and you get a fine Russian refurb. Get the Russian, I find them to be finished at little better, plus you can get a crate of x39 for about $450 all in. I wouldn't be picky on years too much but the early few years the bores were not chrome lined. I would just look for bore condition primarily and decided hardwood vs laminate stock.
 
Magazines come out once you remove the trigger group.

Right now prices for Chinese sks are crazy $400 for an unfired rifle. $200 and you get a fine Russian refurb. Get the Russian, I find them to be finished at little better, plus you can get a crate of x39 for about $450 all in. I wouldn't be picky on years too much but the early few years the bores were not chrome lined. I would just look for bore condition primarily and decided hardwood vs laminate stock.

Is a refurb indicated by an R after the date stamp ?
 
Why are Chinese SKSs so expensive? They are the worst of the SKS bunch for quality and fit/finish. The stocks are pure garbage. The Russian made are 10 times the rifle over the Chinese made and the Yugos are even better than the Russian.
What changed, the Chinese SKS used to be a $99 disposable, the Bics of the rifle world.
 
Is a refurb indicated by an R after the date stamp ?

No, that marking is found on all Russian SKS rifles regardless of if they were refurbished or not. It's simply a Cyrillic letter abbreviation for the Russian word "god" which essentially means, in the year of our lord.

- Chris
 
Why are Chinese SKSs so expensive? They are the worst of the SKS bunch for quality and fit/finish. The stocks are pure garbage. The Russian made are 10 times the rifle over the Chinese made and the Yugos are even better than the Russian.
What changed, the Chinese SKS used to be a $99 disposable, the Bics of the rifle world.

Importers stopped bringing them in, apparently the Chinese exporters were asking for something like 200-300% more per rifle. Canadian market wouldn't pay the new prices from them. Now supply is nearly non existent for unfired rifles, so some are profiting.
 
Why are Chinese SKSs so expensive? They are the worst of the SKS bunch for quality and fit/finish. The stocks are pure garbage. The Russian made are 10 times the rifle over the Chinese made and the Yugos are even better than the Russian.
What changed, the Chinese SKS used to be a $99 disposable, the Bics of the rifle world.

Supply and demand. The stock of "cheap" Chinese sks has all been sold, and they are not being imported in the sort of quantity they were 2-3 years ago.

If you want a non refurb, unfired sks then it's still the cheapest option.


As for the OP, it depends what you want out of your sks. If you just want a cheap plinker rifle, any cheap sks will do. The big differences are yugo sks don't have chrome lined barrel, Chinese are non refurb, Russian are best quality/cheapest price. Some early Russian models have a spring loaded firing pin, and no chrome lining in barrel, but they usually fetch a higher price.

Non chrome lined barrels are more accurate, but not worth the extra cost unless you are trying to squeeze as much accuracy from it as you can... which why should you bother? It's an sks after all.
 
I will help sum it up. Quality wise I haven't handled a poor quality SKS. Some say the Chinese are worse quality, some say the Russians are worse quality, some say the Yugoslavians are worse quality. Realistically they are all about the same.

Big things to note are the following (someone please correct me if I have any details wrong).

For Soviet SKSs. There were two main manufacturers Tula, and Izhevsk. Tula produced many more from roughly 1949 until 1956, and Izhevsk made them from 1953 to 1954 (Izhevsk ones tend to command a premium). All Russian SKSs made in 1952 and later have chrome lined bores. Early 1950 and all 1949 SKSs should have spring loaded firing pins (not critical requirement or they wouldn't have removed it from production). 1949 Soviet SKSs command a premium, they have features such as a 90 degree gas block, cruciform bayonet (similar to the Chinese ones but not quite), and crude writing on the dust cover, overall those are collector SKSs though (run you at least 400$). Most Soviet production were made with hardwood stocks but some later ones were made with laminate stocks, you will also find some refurbished with laminate stocks (dealers tend to charge a premium for them). Be careful the quality of the Refurb, some have poor quality work done (most in the stores now seem to be like this, BBQ style paint on the receiver to touch up the bluing etc.). Overall follow the normal things you look for when buying a used rifle any you should be fine (i.e. bore condition, stock condition etc.). Value wise unless some rare examples will be around the 180-200$ mark.

Chinese SKSs are the other most common type to run into in Canada. As far as I am aware they all have chrome lined bores. Quality wise they tend to be in nicer shape than the Russian ones (just because most are brand new manufacture then put into the grease). Some have blade bayonets and are called Sino-Soviet SKSs as they were built with Soviet supervision with former Soviet tooling. The factory 26 SKSs are also nice as you can find out the date of manufacture based on the serial number. The best shooting SKS I have ever used was a Chinese one, but it was also literally in new condition as well. Prices seem to have fluctuated a fair bit recently resulting in these selling for 300+$ but if you wait I imagine someone will import more into Canada in the future for less.

Yugoslavian SKSs. Some were imported about 6+years ago. There are two main variants, the M59 and the M59/66. The M59 is just like a regular SKS except it has a non-chrome lined bore. The M59/66 has a rifle grenade launcher built into it but is otherwise a regular SKS with a non-chrome lined bore. Yugoslavian SKSs are not exactly common to find, and the M59/66 is very desired running at 600+$ usually.

There are other manufacturers and countries but these are just the main ones you will likely find in Canada. If I were you I would buy either a nice Russian one with a chrome lined bore or a Chinese one in VG+ condition.
 
Go to the red rifles sub forum and read the sticky's for both Russian and Chinese sks, then ask yourself if you want to pay more for a Chinese version and go look for a nice condition Russian that suits your tastes (laminate or hardwood). Shoot clean and repeat!
 
Chinese SKS's were built in any number of factories. However comparing their Military SKS's to the $89 commercial Chinese SKS's is not a fair evaluation. The commercial SKS's varied in quality from pretty good to worthless scrap. A mix of NOS and cheaply manufactured new parts slapped together by laborers rather than assembled by experienced armorers. The military SKS's are excellent quality. Some factories turned out nicer rifles than others but they are all built every bit as good as any Russian SKS. Avoid commercial Chinese SKS's. Denoted by the markings on the receiver, they will have "SKS 7.62X39 MADE IN CHINA" and similar markings. Those are the cheap commercial rifles sold for $89 and hated for their unreliability. The military SKS's have only a factory stamp and serial number. They do not have other markings. As for Russians, theres Tula and Izvhesk. Both are well made.
 
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