SKS mag adapters?

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Hey folks,

I'm considering getting a mag adapter and a few of those XCR 10rnd mags for my chinese SKS. Aside from price, is there any difference between HiCal, Magwedge, TNA, etc adapters aside from brand name. Any reliability problems I should be aware of?

TIA
 
Magwedge.

The trick to making these work is to slowly and deliberately file down the notch at the front bit by bit until the magazine goes in. Impatience and filing away too much will make the feed angle too steep.
 
The Magwedge adapter was made with the full consent and co-operation of the original designer of the system.
Here he is with his prototype, way back in 2014.

Everything else is an unlicensed copy. You'll have to do a price comparison yourself, and I have no data on manufacturing quality comparisons, other than to recommend Magwedge's general reputation for quality and durability.

Obviously product availability will also be a factor, but you should be aware that if you buy anything other than a Magwedge G9, you're supporting a company that values making a quick buck over respecting the intellectual property rights of a small company that can't afford to sue for patent infringement.
 
WmMcLeod said:
The Magwedge adapter was made with the full consent and co-operation of the original designer of the system.
Here he is with his prototype, way back in 2014.

Everything else is an unlicensed copy. You'll have to do a price comparison yourself, and I have no data on manufacturing quality comparisons, other than to recommend Magwedge's general reputation for quality and durability.

Obviously product availability will also be a factor, but you should be aware that if you buy anything other than a Magwedge G9, you're supporting a company that values making a quick buck over respecting the intellectual property rights of a small company that can't afford to sue for patent infringement.
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I second this, magwedge to be an honest buyer, I spoke to the original Creator, and had a good chat, he helped me decide what needed to be done, and he said use it, and enjoy, but don't mention who made it, lol I'd point others towards the legit copies
 
WmMcLeod said:
The Magwedge adapter was made with the full consent and co-operation of the original designer of the system.
Here he is with his prototype, way back in 2014.

Everything else is an unlicensed copy. You'll have to do a price comparison yourself, and I have no data on manufacturing quality comparisons, other than to recommend Magwedge's general reputation for quality and durability.

Obviously product availability will also be a factor, but you should be aware that if you buy anything other than a Magwedge G9, you're supporting a company that values making a quick buck over respecting the intellectual property rights of a small company that can't afford to sue for patent infringement.
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Thanks for the heads up, that's good to know
 
We are sick of this debate about original inventors etc...
If you want facts, the original SKS AR mag adapter was invented by a Canadian in 2012, we have got permission & the rights to use it.....
If you scroll down you will see Marcus, asking about it & ultimately taking the idea from a Canadian inventor & calling it his own invention...

Rebel635csi
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Hi Marcus, no issues discussing it...leave me your email so i can contact you. Cheers

Facts are facts!

 
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Hi-cal installed 2 of theirs for me, and they worked perfectly. I also bought a rifle with a Magwedge one installed and it worked perfectly too.

Properly installed, they are a good solution to the 10 round mag problem
 
I got me a hical. Used a carbide bit to "mill" the receiver with my drill.

Took a couple hours of work to get all the surfaces to drop free properly.

If you are handy, it's a fun project
 
Oh this story again....

Hi, im Rebel635 and i posted that video and a video of me shooting my prototype back in Dec 26 2012....I do believe 2012 is before 2014?

The irony of the "original creator" being defended when he was the one who emailed me first and we chatted about how i made my prototype...
 
Sorry to bring this whole thing up again...I think its important to know that the original inventor was Canadian.

Red_Liner740 said:
Oh this story again....

Hi, im Rebel635 and i posted that video and a video of me shooting my prototype back in Dec 26 2012....I do believe 2012 is before 2014?

The irony of the "original creator" being defended when he was the one who emailed me first and we chatted about how i made my prototype...
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I did 3 of them using the Magwedge. it worked on the russian rifles...but I could not get it to work on the commercial chinese rifles.
 
Well, I will admit I still favor Marcus in all of this, but I tell you what HiCal: I am at the Chilliwack show this weekend, drop by and see if you can change my mind.

Much better than someone possibly getting banned like poor old Marcus trying to defend his point of view here.

I thank all who support my product. I should state this here so everyone knows what the situation regarding availability of the Magwedge G9 adaptor. Quite simply we have been sold out for quite some time, if memory serves me correctly more than a year.

We believe ours was the best version available and we would still be making them today if it were not for the possibility of C71 coming into force and giving the RCMP the legal authority (I will not use the term "right") to arbitrarily reclassify. I strongly suspect that one of the first things on their agenda is to address the whole 10 round pistol mag issue. Without a legal 10 round mag the whole conversion process is moot. Why spend $200 and 5 hours of your life converting a rifle so it can use the same capacity magazine it used before?

I don't see it as a worthwhile expenditure at this late stage, and would advise anyone against taking this on at this point.

Those that already have the installation completed at least have the satisfaction of having enjoyed it for some time.

Sorry to be so pessimistic, but there it is.
 
lone ranger said:
I did 3 of them using the Magwedge. it worked on the russian rifles...but I could not get it to work on the commercial chinese rifles.
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Interesting. I did my first prototype on a Chinese commercial rifle and it was a giant pain in the ass, as I recall. Subtle little changes to some of the internals made things challenging.

Contact me if you still want to get it running, I will do what I can to help you out.
 
Well, I will admit I still favor Marcus in all of this, but I tell you what HiCal: I am at the Chilliwack show this weekend, drop by and see if you can change my mind.

Thanks, i will drop by, we are at the Chilliwack show as well. I have nothing against Marcus or anyone else, i just think its important for people to know the facts.....
I completely support & promote any Canadian company that produces products for our market, i know how tough it can be! You have brought some fantastic products to the Canadian market, thank you for your efforts, i salute you good sir!!
 
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MagWedge Industries said:
Interesting. I did my first prototype on a Chinese commercial rifle and it was a giant pain in the ass, as I recall. Subtle little changes to some of the internals made things challenging.

Contact me if you still want to get it running, I will do what I can to help you out.
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You are right ! subtle differences made it nasty.........I put the gun back to its original configuration & sold it.
 
MagWedge Industries said:
if it were not for the possibility of C71 coming into force and giving the RCMP the legal authority (I will not use the term "right") to arbitrarily reclassify. I strongly suspect that one of the first things on their agenda is to address the whole 10 round pistol mag issue. Without a legal 10 round mag the whole conversion process is moot. Why spend $200 and 5 hours of your life converting a rifle so it can use the same capacity magazine it used before?

I don't see it as a worthwhile expenditure at this late stage, and would advise anyone against taking this on at this point.

Sorry to be so pessimistic, but there it is.
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i would say its a prudent business decision, thats why i sold my 10 rd pistol mags.
 
Fact: RedLiner740 posted a video of his design in late 2012. He did not patent his design. He corresponded with Marcus about particulars of his design.

Fact: The design showcased by RedLiner740 has the magazine release button in front of the magazine, with the transfer bar to the magazine catch itself travelling in a track milled into the interior of the magazine well. It is not visible externally. This magazine adapter also has a bottom profile that is basically parallel to the stock.

Fact: in 2014 Marcus releases his G9 magazine adapter, which he has gone to the expense of patenting in some form. The G9 features a number of substantial changes to the original 2012 design. The most substantial being that the release button is moved behind the magazine, and lower down, likely to allow it to clear more stock types. As a result, the transfer bar is on a more pronounced diagonal, which is easily seen because Marcus has milled the track for the transfer bar into the exterior of the magazine well, likely to facilitate ease of manufacture.
Marcus's magazine adapter also has an extended magazine well that no longer follows the profile of the stock, it extends about another half inch lower than the original RedLine740 design.
In addition, while the original RedLine740 design was milled from a single, solid block of aluminum, Marcus's design is made from a combination of the one side milled from billet, and the other side a plate that is bolted on. (another ease of manufacture decision, no doubt)
Marcus has also changed the lock-up point on the nose of the magazine adapter, making it a separate, adjustable component so that it can adapt to the many different dimensions of the SKS variants. The RedLine740 design was custom fitted to an individual rifle and did not include this feature.

Fact: HiCal soon announced a magazine adapter of their own (my knowledge of the timeline is fuzzy, I'll admit). Their design incorporates all of Marcus's manufacturability improvements, and differs at every point of variance from the original design. (remember, Marcus was confident that his design improvements would protect him in the event of a patent challenge by the person who first disclosed the concept.)

Fact: MagWedge's G9 is a direct copy of Marcus's G9, in every respect, since they sought the consent of the original designer of the G9. They are effectively a Canadian manufacturing partner of the Marcus G9. The MagWedge G9 differs in every relevant design aspect from RedLiner740's original design. Important note: MagWedge's G9 hit the Canadian market some time after the HiCal design did, due to manufacturing lead times and the co-ordination difficulties when the original designer for the G9 is in Texas.

I leave it to the reader to draw their own conclusions. I offer these, as mine. If the G9 is a copy of RedLiner740's design, then the iPod is a copy of the Zune.
Marcus did not "steal" the design. He improved upon the concept, which RedLiner740 disclosed in great detail before he had applied for any intellectual property protection of any kind. Marcus would not have been in any legal jeopardy if he had directly copied the RedLiner740 design, which he obviously did not.
 
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