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100 yards, 5 shots, off-hand shooting, no sling, original stock, iron sights.
The two flyers where my first two shots with this rifle EVER.
I wasn't expecting the long creepy trigger, nor did I know how to use the sights yet.

And unlike 303's targets (that I have seen) you will notice mine don't have powder burns from point blank shooting. :p

Also I guess deer in 303's world are wearing better then level III body armour. :rolleyes:
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot16_5.htm


I have no doubt that if I did my part it would drop any deer within 150 yards...esp' with legal soft point hunting ammo, unlike the FMJ used in the test above.

In fact I'd take it on my upcoming hunting trip, but frankly it is way more complicated, and heavy then my 30/30.
And to me more rifle packed in means less meat packed out. :D

But I digress...
 
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Calum said:
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100 yards, 5 shots, off-hand shooting, no sling, original stock, iron sights.
The two flyers where my first two shots with this rifle EVER.
I wasn't expecting the long creepy trigger, nor did I know how to use the sights yet.

And unlike 303's targets (that I have seen) you will notice mine don't have powder burns from point blank shooting. :p

Also I guess deer in 303's world are wearing better then level III body armour. :rolleyes:
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot16_5.htm


I have no doubt that if I did my part it would drop any deer within 150 yards...esp' with legal soft point hunting ammo, unlike the FMJ used in the test above.

In fact I'd take it on my upcoming hunting trip, but frankly it is way more complicated, and heavy then my 30/30.
And to me more rifle packed in means less meat packed out. :D

But I digress...
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Calum,I know you're kiddin' about the powder burns on my targets...but there is an easy way to find out for sure.The Chemainus gunrange is open:wave:
 
303carbine said:
Calum,I know you're kiddin' about the powder burns on my targets...but there is an easy way to find out for sure.The Chemainus gunrange is open:wave:
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Once again, only if you are willing to hold my targets...:D
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As I certainly do not trust you behind me with a firearm, as clearly your rantings show you have deep issues, and maybe even a personality disorder.

I'll just put yah back on my ignore list..that's 3 strikes your out...all the best. :wave:
 
Well, my experiance with the SKS is limited. I ordered a Norinco and promptly took it to the range. The front site was out of whack, and at 100 yards, printed about a foot to the right. Irregardless, it put three shots into about a 3" cluster, without a sandbag, but elbow on the bench. Good enough for a 100 yard deer rifle, and as powerful as the 30-30. Itself a controversal cartridge that has killed moose, elk, bear and of course deer. The rifles are generaly reliable, thanks to a simple gas system. They are easily stripped for cleaning. And with the option of factory loaded hunting ammo, a new hunter is good to go. My biggest beef with them are the stocks. I like short stocks. They are easier to use in the Winter. But I find the stock is ill designed for use as a hunting rifle. To me, it's just uncomfortable to use. Fortunatly, aftermarket sporter stocks are available to turn your rifle into a more user friendly unit. I agree that their are better rifles out there. But at $150, your choices are limited. A Mosin, Enfield or SKS are about you only true budget, honest to goodness hunting rifles. The 7.62x39 was illegal to use in Alberta for a long time. But thanks to the WSSM case, they lifted that silly rule. I would feel just as comfortable using a 7.62x39, a .357 mag, .44 mag or 30-30 within the 100-150 yard range. The rifles are non-restricted, so can be used anywhere. Good luck.
 
303carbine said:
For one thing full metal jackets are illegal to hunt with and when handloaded with expanding bullets it's still an underpowered cartridge for anything other than varmints and predators like coyotes.
Sure you can use it for deer and such ,but it's a very poor choice especially when there is so many other more competent calibers.Accuracy has never been a stronghold of the sks , but you have a have a semi-auto to keep shooting til you hit something. Yes, I have shot them and that is what I base my beliefs on. Spray and pray is not something I do in a hunting situation, although you might have some measure of success in a battle situation.
Hunters owe it to the game they harvest by taking them quickly and that means using more gun than an sks.
I would't use a rimfire for deer for the same reason.....
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What a ####:wave:
 
pharaoh2 said:
Well, my experiance with the SKS is limited. I ordered a Norinco and promptly took it to the range. The front site was out of whack, and at 100 yards, printed about a foot to the right. Irregardless, it put three shots into about a 3" cluster, without a sandbag, but elbow on the bench. Good enough for a 100 yard deer rifle, and as powerful as the 30-30. Itself a controversal cartridge that has killed moose, elk, bear and of course deer. The rifles are generaly reliable, thanks to a simple gas system. They are easily stripped for cleaning. And with the option of factory loaded hunting ammo, a new hunter is good to go. My biggest beef with them are the stocks. I like short stocks. They are easier to use in the Winter. But I find the stock is ill designed for use as a hunting rifle. To me, it's just uncomfortable to use. Fortunatly, aftermarket sporter stocks are available to turn your rifle into a more user friendly unit. I agree that their are better rifles out there. But at $150, your choices are limited. A Mosin, Enfield or SKS are about you only true budget, honest to goodness hunting rifles. The 7.62x39 was illegal to use in Alberta for a long time. But thanks to the WSSM case, they lifted that silly rule. I would feel just as comfortable using a 7.62x39, a .357 mag, .44 mag or 30-30 within the 100-150 yard range. The rifles are non-restricted, so can be used anywhere. Good luck.
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Very good points

Though not a lot of Enfields selling for 150 any more :(, nor good condition Mosins for that matter
 
Here's all I need to know about the SKS: I've had scores of firearms over the years. I know guns and shooting pretty well. I currently have a Yugo SKS in my collection, why? Because I enjoy it! That's all that matters to me.

If someone else doesn't like them, fine, they don't have to own one.
 
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When he gets his PAL in three years, I have a rifle picked out for him already. He doesn't know it yet.............:D
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on the hunting forum , you talked about getting a rifle for your 15 yo son.....so its not gonna be a SKS? lol.

well, i did, i gave my 15 yo a SKS and he loves it.
 
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Is it at all possible to Ban 303 from just the SKS forum? Maybe you can prohib him from using SKS in his posts or just set him to universal ignore on this section? If one had the time of day I'm sure they could go through his 2k odd posts and Id bet AT LEAST 60% are bashing the SKS in some way shape or form.. He is seriously one of the only people I've contemplated putting on my ignore list for this reason alone..

Ive seen him Bash SKS' in threads that don't even have to do with SKS rifles.

Anyway, Like the second posts states the SKS is non-restricted.. Its also lots of fun to shoot so go out there and get one while they are still relatively cheap! Just remember to give 'er a good cleaning if using corrosive ammo.

Don't mine 303, he just loves the SKS but has a strange way to show it.
 
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SKS is non restricted. Yet.

I also would like to see 303Troll banned from the SKS forum. There are very few things in life as annoying as this guy.
 
I have a Norinco SKS I bought about 15 yrs ago. I don't shoot it much, but when I do it sure puts a grin on my face. It may not be the most accurite gun, but it is a whole lot of fun and ammo is relatively inexpensive.

What more could you want for a plinker or ones first rifle? I cannot see why it wouldn't take down a deer within a 100 yds if one has been practicing with it and knows the rifle.
 
Holleyman said:
Caliber MV 200YV ME FTLB 200Y E
7.62x39 (125 SP) 2365 1783 1552 882
30-30 Win. (150 FP) 2390 1605 1902 858

So by saying the 7.62X39 cartridge is underpowered for medium sized game you must also be saying the 30-30 is as well. The ballistics are almost the same at the muzzle and at 200 yards.
I know of a lot of deer and moose that would argue that the 30-30 is indeed adequate for taking down this game.
As for your personal experience of not being able to hit anything... well it isn't the rifle's fault your a bad shot.
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Thank you :), it saved me the extra time. I have gotten 2 nice sized bucks now with my SKS and with very little trouble. Just dont go nuts and try a few hundred yard shot is all.
 
Don't really like the SKS either. Had one for a while but didn't like the finish etc. Sure it's a great priced semi auto tho.
Good starter gun before you move up to something more serious :D
 
your opinions on wheather you like the gun or not!!!

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Is the sks a restricted or non restricted firearm.
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Question was: " is it restricted"

Answer: NO, except for the paratrooper variation

There are lots of other threads for gun snobs to post in

SKS is non restricted. Yet.

I also would like to see 303Troll banned from the SKS forum. There are very few things in life as annoying as this guy.
 
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And you can go heavier than 123 grain if you want, particularly if you reload. Wolf has got their 154 grain ammo going 2104 fps (should be available in Canada some day) and a reloader could definitely do better than that. Any of your 303 british .311 dia bullets can be loaded into your 7.62x39, so you could go much heavier (but you'd have to watch for bullet eating up your powder space). And then there's the 123 grain TSX coming out in the spring specifically for the 7.62x39 for hunting...
 
One thing about SKS - it is absolute reliability. In a harsh conditions of Siberian winter or wet jungle of Vietnam - SKS is the semi which will continue working for you. That makes it a rifle you would love to have for the SHTF situation BTW.

Edited: And yes, if you are looking for finish quality in a gun, SKS is not for you. Nor it is a target rifle by any standard. The Soviet Army standard test for SKS was a 10 CM group at 100 M distance.
 
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FYI .303carbine a friend of mine just dispatched a problem 600lb Black Bear from about 10 feet with his SKS. Five rounds in his head and shoulders. I don't know how big your gophers are but I suspect they are a tad smaller than this particular Black Bear.

Gotta get one, kinda in love with the D model. Anyone got one they want to sell.

Take Care

Bob
 
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