Slam Fire
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Never seen, had nor heard of anybody having one in 30 plus years. Slamfires are caused by improperly loaded ammo, usually high primers, not the rifle.
If the sear is worn or broken of the hammer spring housing isn't assembled properly, the rifle can fire 2 or 3 round bursts though. Never seen that either.
If the sear is worn or broken of the hammer spring housing isn't assembled properly, the rifle can fire 2 or 3 round bursts though. Never seen that either.
It is a matter of physics and engineering where something is off spec/out of tolerance with either the rifle and/or ammo. Rather than rely on internet tales, hearsay or speculation, get a copy of the Kuhnhausen Shop Manual on the Garand and M14. It goes into great detail on the causes and preventions for both slamfires and out of battery detonations with these rifles. And yes, slamfires can and do happen. I've owned many Garands over the yrs and fired thousands of rounds of GI and handloaded ammo in them without either of these problems.
It has happened to me once...after a thorough cleaning of the bolt, removal of the firing pin was needed, it never happened again.
Some guys think grease needs to smeared all over the bolt and the recessed bolt face...not so. This may contribute, over time, to a slam fire. It is very un-commpon though not impossible.
Follow Purple's advise and get the manual.
Cheers
Some guys think grease needs to smeared all over the bolt and the recessed bolt face...not so. This may contribute, over time, to a slam fire. It is very un-commpon though not impossible.
Follow Purple's advise and get the manual.
Cheers
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Yup. Had one fire when I released the bolt. Don't remeber if that was the Garand or the SKS. Had both out that day....
Saw that happen in Cadets, on the big range at Vernon, with a C1A1. Guy in front attached his mag, pulled back the charging handle and let her go.
PUKPUKPUKPUKPUKPUKPUKPUKPUKPUKPUKPUK!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rifle came back right over his shoulder; last one was right over my head.
REALLY nice that we were only loading twelve rounds!
Talked to the Armourer a short while afterwards and he told me in no uncertain terms that the FN C1A1 is a semiautomatic rifle which is incapable of automatic fire and that NO FN C1A1 rifle had EVER gone automatic on that range.
He had the thing stripped down on the bench when he said this, mind you.
Firing pin broken and jammed, of course.
Thirteen would have been really unlucky (for me) but it wasn't there... thankfully.
There were a hundred other guys there at the time, but I think it made the biggest impression on me, for some strange reason!
Lotsa laffs!
PUKPUKPUKPUKPUKPUKPUKPUKPUKPUKPUKPUK!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rifle came back right over his shoulder; last one was right over my head.
REALLY nice that we were only loading twelve rounds!
Talked to the Armourer a short while afterwards and he told me in no uncertain terms that the FN C1A1 is a semiautomatic rifle which is incapable of automatic fire and that NO FN C1A1 rifle had EVER gone automatic on that range.
He had the thing stripped down on the bench when he said this, mind you.
Firing pin broken and jammed, of course.
Thirteen would have been really unlucky (for me) but it wasn't there... thankfully.
There were a hundred other guys there at the time, but I think it made the biggest impression on me, for some strange reason!
Lotsa laffs!
Several years ago, I met someone who survived having their Springfield M1A slamfire on them, as well as another witness who administered first aid. The rifle was toast and the fellow was apparently bleeding pretty badly from a part that went into his leg. IIRC, Springfield gave him a replacement rifle and I met him on the range while shooting the new aquisition. He learned the hard way to always load from the mag!
Never met or saw this happen with a Garand, but I'm glad that I know to use the clip with the rifle.
Never met or saw this happen with a Garand, but I'm glad that I know to use the clip with the rifle.
Had it happen a bunch of times with an M14, which was just a product improved Garand. In my case it was the result of using soft Benchrest primers. The M14 and Garand need a harder primer cup or the floating firing pin can hit the primer hard enough to set it off.
Slamfire in my garand two years ago was so fast(2nd shot), that the average idiot might miss it. Can't get mil grade primers so I use hardest primer (by hearsay), definetly don't use federal and seat as deep as possible. My buddy had some tight pockets(flush seated) and had two doubles in a row. Definetly scared him. I uniformed some primer pockets for him, he used more push to seat, problem solved. When an unfired cartridge comes out of a garand you'll see a small dent in the primer. good luck
