Slide / Barrel fitting

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Get guys I'm looking to be a Smith & Wesson MP shooting tight groups at 25m. Is there anyone who can competently do some barrel and slide fitting on a polymer pistol? Has anybody done something similar? What are the methods, risks, prices ect?

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I realize polymer guns aren't exactly great models for craftsmanship or fitting but guys with gunsmith fitted barrels are getting 1911 type accuracy from the MP so I figure you should be as to at least improve the accuracy without spending $400 on a barrel.

My thoughts are that a tiny bit of material added to the barrel hood and front slide rails would have tremendous results. But I don't know if that's feasable or practical.
 
My thoughts are that a tiny bit of material added to the barrel hood and front slide rails would have tremendous results. But I don't know if that's feasable or practical.

Certainly, I don't mean to discourage you at all. There are commercial operations offering smith-fit "match" barrels in the US, so presumably someone could offer the same service here. I hope you find them!

When I talked to Murray Charlton, they told me that even the factory barrel is not a drop-in part, and that it would require fitting (not available for sale to the public). Puzzling, but I am not in a position to disagree with them. I have a Storm Lake "match" barrel on the way, just to see if it can possibly shrink 25m groups by an inch or so. Storm Lake calls theirs a "drop-in" part, which is... interesting...

Tengoo is correct in that there are more and less accurate versions of the M&P. The M&P45 is famously accurate, and the M&P40 5" should be the most accurate of the 9/40 pistols.

Oh! One "accurizing" tip that I can share: Recrowning your barrel. Or, ahem, I mean polishing it. Not sure how much effect it can have with a pistol, but... Mine was not confidence inspiring from the factory, and a decent job of it cannot possibly degrade accuracy.
 
The crown is a good approach. To be honest I'm not familiar with crown work, although I understand how it affects the ballistics. But to look at a crown I could say what looks good / bad. But if I compare it to my Sig it looks, let's say .... More American made.
 
Storm Lake makes a general production "one size fits most" barrel, and a special production true "gunsmith fit" barrel. I asked Questar about special ordering for me, but basically got a canned reply that told me they had no clue the special order barrels existed. As far as slide to frame fit goes, it should be possible to add weld to the ears of the locking block and sear block and then re-cut them to reduce slop in the slide/frame interface. I asked Randy Lee (Apex) the same question some time ago and he agreed that it would improve the repeatability, which would (should) always result in increased accuracy. Another consideration is the timing - Smith has re-engineered the guns to control the timing, and change the barrel to improve performance with heavier bullets, doubtless there's more that could be done with regard to the upward tension on the barrel hood. The problem with both increasing the frame rails and increasing the tension upward on the barrel, is that the parts that provide these 'services' are MIM parts, made of not publicly known alloys, so getting the right wire to add material is somewhat problematic.
 
Update.

I got a Storm Lake 40-9 conversion barrel for my MP9. The only thing that is different from the factory is the barrel hood which is wider. I very gently and little by little removed material from the sides until the barrel dropped in. The barrel fits snug with no side to side movement. The barrel is also of superior quality.

I have now fired 1000 rounds through it. Zero malfunctions and superb accuracy.
 
Now see here Kandress! As the foolish firearm forum folk's designated pi$$ spigot it falls to me to formally pick the fly chit out of the pepper! Do you have any pics of what's involved with this? And maybe a before/after range report? It sounds interesting as hell...can other polymer guns be handled the same way...?
 
Aren't there long-slide versions of the M&P that are built for target and competition use? I think this would be a better route to take than trying to accurize a service-grade pistol...

The M&P 5" Pro Series that I have just gives you a slightly longer sight radius. Mine had a 1:18.75 twist barrel and bought a 1:10 twist barrel for mine. Wrong gun for trying to accurize. Get a Colt Gold Cup Trophy, you can shoot it right out of the box.
 
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