Brutus
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Just thought I would post this because there is some information out there
on other gun forums about the performance of 12 bore 2 3/4 inch Rottwiell
slugs.
I compared them to Winchester Super X Foster 1 ounce 2 3/4 inch slugs because they are almost universally available for sale and cheap.
In the Ithaca Deer Slayer Police Special choked I/C, the german made slugs chronographed at 1282 fps. Recoil was stiff, but MUCH more manageable off the bench than the Winchester Foster style slugs.
Unfortuneately the screens were too close for a good reading on the Winchester slugs...but thier box did state a velocity of 1600 fps.
Bye the way both slug designs they fed, fired and ejected no problem at all through my Ithaca M37, it has a 20 inch smoothbore barrel and rifle type open sights.
But knowing manufacturers I would bet they tested them out of a longer and fully polished barrel. I bet you these Winchesters were probably at 1500 fps or a little slower.
As for printing on paper at 25 yards ( primary purpose close defence, so OK)
This was not a hard evaluation for accuracy because most would commonly use these for wildlife defence. All I can say is at 25 yards they would both perform well enough to consistantly hit a large animal close up in a vital area.
Both slugs were pretty centred on the target board but both were slightly low. Winchesters being closest by an inch and one half to two inches,and the german slugs only an inch or so lower. All shooting except chronographing was done standing offhand with no support as to duplicate real world use.
The Brenekkes come in a see through plastic shell case, you can easily view the slug design. It appears to be a harder lead than standard north american foster slug lead. Also they appear to be almost a semi wadcutter look to them like cast pistol bullets of a "elmer kieth type."
Brennekes are slower but less intimidating to shoot....they come in ten round packs with a tear open design on the box for easier access.
Winchesters Fosters are cheaper but boy they kick more, this may or may not an issue in the bush.
I would trust the Brenekkes where grizzlies are more abundent or on bigger black bears. Perhaps perfect for wild boar too.
Otherwise the Winchesters due to their softer alloy would be fine on regular black bears and deer.
I have yet to try these on critters that are dangerous to ones health so I would like to hear from those with that exact experience.
Cheers...
on other gun forums about the performance of 12 bore 2 3/4 inch Rottwiell
slugs.
I compared them to Winchester Super X Foster 1 ounce 2 3/4 inch slugs because they are almost universally available for sale and cheap.
In the Ithaca Deer Slayer Police Special choked I/C, the german made slugs chronographed at 1282 fps. Recoil was stiff, but MUCH more manageable off the bench than the Winchester Foster style slugs.
Unfortuneately the screens were too close for a good reading on the Winchester slugs...but thier box did state a velocity of 1600 fps.
Bye the way both slug designs they fed, fired and ejected no problem at all through my Ithaca M37, it has a 20 inch smoothbore barrel and rifle type open sights.
But knowing manufacturers I would bet they tested them out of a longer and fully polished barrel. I bet you these Winchesters were probably at 1500 fps or a little slower.
As for printing on paper at 25 yards ( primary purpose close defence, so OK)
This was not a hard evaluation for accuracy because most would commonly use these for wildlife defence. All I can say is at 25 yards they would both perform well enough to consistantly hit a large animal close up in a vital area.
Both slugs were pretty centred on the target board but both were slightly low. Winchesters being closest by an inch and one half to two inches,and the german slugs only an inch or so lower. All shooting except chronographing was done standing offhand with no support as to duplicate real world use.
The Brenekkes come in a see through plastic shell case, you can easily view the slug design. It appears to be a harder lead than standard north american foster slug lead. Also they appear to be almost a semi wadcutter look to them like cast pistol bullets of a "elmer kieth type."
Brennekes are slower but less intimidating to shoot....they come in ten round packs with a tear open design on the box for easier access.
Winchesters Fosters are cheaper but boy they kick more, this may or may not an issue in the bush.
I would trust the Brenekkes where grizzlies are more abundent or on bigger black bears. Perhaps perfect for wild boar too.
Otherwise the Winchesters due to their softer alloy would be fine on regular black bears and deer.
I have yet to try these on critters that are dangerous to ones health so I would like to hear from those with that exact experience.
Cheers...
