Smaller loads for M305?

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So i've been using Remington Core-lokt 150 grain ammo in my M305 since i got it and it's working just fine. But i was wondering about shooting lighter loads to maybe lessen the recoil.

I've seen these: http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_108_110&products_id=816

Which are already much cheaper then the 20$/box at only 12$ but im wondering if it will still cycle properly and if its possible to go even lower, like 125gr.
 
the good will be maybe finding a round that is better and softer on you.
the bad that would come out of it is you may have to manually cycle the rifle.
 
If you are finding the recoil from an M-14/M305 a bit too much, perhaps you need to get a PAST recoil shield and use it under your shooting jacket or over it. Using lighter loads will cause you to have malfunctions. You might also find that changing to a better position for shooting will help a lot, for example, get off the bench and get prone on a good shooting mat with your elbows well protected. Using your whole body in this position allows you to better absorb the recoil from the rifle.

Scott
 
I can handle the recoil. Shoulder does get sore after like 80 rounds but its also when introduce poeple to shooting, i go from my .22.... to a .308! Cuz it's all i've got!

If i bring my dad's .303 or .30-06, its even worse recoil.

God damn i really need like a .223 rifle.
 
Grab a box of the lighter stuff and try it out. You may find it cycles just fine. I made a load to shoot 110gr round nose bullets and it cycled just fine at the starting load. The felt recoil was noticeably less than my 150 fmj load.
Also look into a rubber butt pad from marstar or the like.
 
If you reload, or have a friend who does, I found that when loading 4895 and the 150 gr bullet, I could reduce the powder charge from 42 gr all the way down to 25 gr, and the action would still cycle. So I loaded a bunch at 30 gr and used them for CQB shooting. Like shooting a big BB gun.
 
25 grains of either 4895 with a 150 is so far below minimum it's totally unsafe. Chances of a low charge detonation are astronomic. Below minimum loads can be as dangerous as an above max load.
If 110's cycle the action, the 125's and 130's certainly will. Be far safer than way below minimum loads. Can't imagine the felt recoil being excessive though.
 
I can second the past pad- and if you have to, take off the buttplate and put on one of those special recoil pads built for the m14- back in the day I took lots of kidding for wearing such a contraption, (I didn't need the pad on the rifle) but I was also using the beretta paratrooper stock- that's basically 2 steel rods and a buttplate behind a pistol grip- no recoil absorption whatsoever-however, I also found that with this particular rifle, you had to" step on" the load quite a bit - IE 165 grain pills or better and 42 grains of 748- it really liked a 180 ( this was b4 I knew better- I used 180's for everything) and 44 grains- and I have a large can of 748- 8 lbs- basically, the bottom line is you can monkey with pads and such to reduce the recoil, but you still need something close to milspec to get the action to function reliably
 
I heard that the original ammo for the M14 was a 147 grain bullet?

But i don't remember ever seeing that load on any box where i live... is it still a commercially available load?

And if anyone has tried it?
 
I have find memories of shooting the 125 gr bullet in service rifle matches back in the nineties right around the 1995 April date when the ORA lost their ammo allotment from the DND. Big noise and hardly any kick. I even shot that load at the 500 yard stages of the older service rifle course of fire. Great results. Hey I might just find some 130 grainers and get busy reloading once again.

What's not to like especially if we are only punching paper?

Cheers and keep helping the noobs,

Barney
 
in the civilian world 150 is close enough- that's just a means figure anyway- I've seen lows of 146 grains to a high of 154 from pull-downs
 
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