smle clips?
- Thread starter rtHook1
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a clip or a magazine
there is a difference
there is a difference
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it its for a M1 its a clip, if it's for a Enfield, it's a "charger". The same chargers will work in the No1Mk3 or the No4 or the No5 or the charger loading Long Lee.
Now a lot of the ones available now are not British, and can be tight. The method that competitive shooters use is to sand the inside to smooth them out.
Now a lot of the ones available now are not British, and can be tight. The method that competitive shooters use is to sand the inside to smooth them out.
Infanteer90
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Well, if we are going to be giving lectures on terminology then I would point out that the No 4 rifle is NOT an SMLE. SMLE refers to the No 1 series of rifles.
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It can't be helped, this is the milsurp section, all answers come in the form of a lecture
And I can't answer the question without knowing what is being asked
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Actualy it was not a lecture but just trying to be helpful if he encounters a problem loading. Also just letting him know that the chargers are not exclusively for ONE rifle.
DARKARCHER
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Exactly! And about No.4 mags.... It really is best to try a few of them in your rifle before buying, I've found that the fit of some of them is truly horrible. I had one Savage made one that was loose in every rifle I tried it in.
Gunparts lists Lee-Enfield mag chargers at $1.45US each. At the bottom.
http://www.e-gunparts.com/products_new.asp?CatID=11953
Marstar wants $1.95 each, when they have any.
Both companies, incorrectly, call all Lee-Enfields SMLE's too.
http://www.e-gunparts.com/products_new.asp?CatID=11953
Marstar wants $1.95 each, when they have any.
Both companies, incorrectly, call all Lee-Enfields SMLE's too.
Guys, I really hate to p in the pot right now, but we MUST have terminology correct. If we haven't, then who knows what might happen: we might face another media attack over "semiautomatic machine-guns" or something just as silly.
Point 2: John Sukey is right.
Point 3: If you have the chargers AND you load them properly, it is actually a lot faster to reload the magazine without removing it from the rifle. This is why the older rifles actually had the magazines chained onto the rifle: spare mags were not issued. After the chargers came out (1901-02) the troopies found that working with the chargers was faster AND they were easier to keep clean until, it came time to use them.
Point 4: nomenclature is important. I have a No. 3 Mark 1 and I also have a No. 1 Mark III. And I have an SMLE Mark I*** and an SMLE Mark III*. Do YOU know the difference?And how about the SMLE Mark IV and the No. 4 Rifle? Do you know which is which? We have to be specific just so we know what we're talking about.
And I am about to be flamed for a lecture. Go ahead.
Point 2: John Sukey is right.
Point 3: If you have the chargers AND you load them properly, it is actually a lot faster to reload the magazine without removing it from the rifle. This is why the older rifles actually had the magazines chained onto the rifle: spare mags were not issued. After the chargers came out (1901-02) the troopies found that working with the chargers was faster AND they were easier to keep clean until, it came time to use them.
Point 4: nomenclature is important. I have a No. 3 Mark 1 and I also have a No. 1 Mark III. And I have an SMLE Mark I*** and an SMLE Mark III*. Do YOU know the difference?And how about the SMLE Mark IV and the No. 4 Rifle? Do you know which is which? We have to be specific just so we know what we're talking about.
And I am about to be flamed for a lecture. Go ahead.
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Of course if you can find some milsurp ammo already in chargers the problem is solved.
Now don't forget the sequence of the rims in loading the charger. _-_-_
Now don't forget the sequence of the rims in loading the charger. _-_-_
RE: Point 3:
I was under the impression that the mag was chained to the rifle so the dumb trooper would not lose the magazine in the mud, and a (1) spare magazine was typically issued, not for reloading, but in case the magazine was damaged/removed from service (filled with mud?) in some way.
EDIT: Wow, totally just remembered this was a necro. Sorry.
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That was only in the case of the very early rifles as they were not charger loading. The spare magazines were withdrawn very early in the production. That is also the reason why Long Lees have cutoffs. The idea was to load the rifle with single rounds untill the enemy got close or in case of a cavalry charge as you would have a full magazine in reserve.
Since we are into nomenclature, there ain't no such animule as a "Jungle carbine" The official term is Rifle No5 Mk1.
The cavalry carbine was another oddity. You could NOT carry a spare magazine as the magazine will not retain rounds unless it is IN the carbine. Of course a fast horse was handy if you ran out of ammo. Then there was always the sabre.
Note chargere are loaded with the rims thus _-_-_ Magicaly they will load and feed properly with this arrangement
Since we are into nomenclature, there ain't no such animule as a "Jungle carbine" The official term is Rifle No5 Mk1.
The cavalry carbine was another oddity. You could NOT carry a spare magazine as the magazine will not retain rounds unless it is IN the carbine. Of course a fast horse was handy if you ran out of ammo. Then there was always the sabre.
Note chargere are loaded with the rims thus _-_-_ Magicaly they will load and feed properly with this arrangement
