So I'm watching "Executive Decison" and I see this:
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YOu are correct the Winter Soldier has one on a back holster
Not sure when Executive Decision was released, but if you go back to the action movies of the 80's and 90's you'll see Scorpions used in a lot of them. There was a time when it was the weapon of choice for every bad guy. Terrorists were always waving them around in movies, because they represented a lot of firepower in a small concealable package-just like in real life.
1996.
2014's "The Equalizer" had one too... guess I didn't look that hard when I saw the movie, just a couple months ago.
Dead bad guy in "Taken 2" as well:
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I don't know if it's actually even in the James Bond Goldeneye movie, but they definitely had it in mind when they made the Goldeneye video game's "Klobb"
They didn't want to bother to get naming rights so they pretty much just made up silly names for all the guns. They named it Klobb after one of the main game designers, Ken Lobb.
They didn't want to bother to get naming rights so they pretty much just made up silly names for all the guns. They named it Klobb after one of the main game designers, Ken Lobb.
The thing I find interesting is... how did anyone ever think that "Poirot" could be taken seriously as an arch villain??? Awesome actor but... all I can think of when I look at him is "Poirot", and I'm sure I'm not alone.
Before the fall of the Soviet Union (1991) and even for awhile afterward, it was not straightforward - or even possible - for most Hollywood armorers to get their hands on Soviet/Eastern Block weapons. It seems kind of hard to believe these days, given that the whole world is awash in them now (subject to local legal constraints) and the semi-auto "AK-47" even has a plausible claim to being "America's favorite rifle" these days (I'm sure the title goes to the AR-15, but there is a case to be made there).
One of the "famous" examples of this is "Red Dawn" (1984) where they had to fake-up the Soviet weapons from available starting points: Walther PP for Makarov PM; (Finnish) Jatimatic Sub-machinegun for Polish PM-63; Egyptian Maadi MISR's (converted to full auto for the film in addition to being mocked-up) for AKM and AK-74; Valmat M78 for RPK; M60 for DShK and Goryunov; 1950s era RPG-2 mocked up as RPG-7, etc., etc. and even an Aerospatiale Puma mocked-up as a Mi-24 Hind.
The Eastern stuff just wasn't available for the most part, unless it was 1950s or earlier vintage. I think that goes for the Vz.61 Skoprion as well. This IMFDB list seems really incomplete, but it still suggests that, pre-Soviet collapse, getting military weapons out of Czechoslovakia (or any other Eastern Block country) was not all that easy, and certainly not easy for something like a Hollywood film. Oh, how times have changed. You can order them by the shipping container now... provided you've got the right paperwork.
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Skorpion_SA_Vz_61
One other point... the Vz.61 (or other variations of the Skorpion)... is it a clear "bad guy gun", "good guy gun", or neutral.
Some guns are clearly "good guy guns" in film land: Colt Single Action Army, Winchester lever action rifles, M1911A1, M16 (especially fixed carry handle models), etc.
Others are "bad guy guns": P08 Luger, C96 Mauser (Han Solo and Luke Skywalker excepted), P38, MP40, the entire Kalashnikov line (except in recent years, where it has start to morph into a symbol of resitance even in the U.S.!), etc.
The Vz.61 Skorpion seems like it should be an obvious "bad guy gun", but when you look at the list: Leo in "Body of Lies", Keanu in "The Maxtrix", etc., maybe it is a neutral???
Before the fall of the Soviet Union (1991) and even for awhile afterward, it was not straightforward - or even possible - for most Hollywood armorers to get their hands on Soviet/Eastern Block weapons. It seems kind of hard to believe these days, given that the whole world is awash in them now (subject to local legal constraints) and the semi-auto "AK-47" even has a plausible claim to being "America's favorite rifle" these days (I'm sure the title goes to the AR-15, but there is a case to be made there).
One of the "famous" examples of this is "Red Dawn" (1984) where they had to fake-up the Soviet weapons from available starting points: Walther PP for Makarov PM; (Finnish) Jatimatic Sub-machinegun for Polish PM-63; Egyptian Maadi MISR's (converted to full auto for the film in addition to being mocked-up) for AKM and AK-74; Valmat M78 for RPK; M60 for DShK and Goryunov; 1950s era RPG-2 mocked up as RPG-7, etc., etc. and even an Aerospatiale Puma mocked-up as a Mi-24 Hind.
The Eastern stuff just wasn't available for the most part, unless it was 1950s or earlier vintage. I think that goes for the Vz.61 Skoprion as well. This IMFDB list seems really incomplete, but it still suggests that, pre-Soviet collapse, getting military weapons out of Czechoslovakia (or any other Eastern Block country) was not all that easy, and certainly not easy for something like a Hollywood film. Oh, how times have changed. You can order them by the shipping container now... provided you've got the right paperwork.
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Skorpion_SA_Vz_61
One other point... the Vz.61 (or other variations of the Skorpion)... is it a clear "bad guy gun", "good guy gun", or neutral.
Some guns are clearly "good guy guns" in film land: Colt Single Action Army, Winchester lever action rifles, M1911A1, M16 (especially fixed carry handle models), etc.
Others are "bad guy guns": P08 Luger, C96 Mauser (Han Solo and Luke Skywalker excepted), P38, MP40, the entire Kalashnikov line (except in recent years, where it has start to morph into a symbol of resitance even in the U.S.!), etc.
The Vz.61 Skorpion seems like it should be an obvious "bad guy gun", but when you look at the list: Leo in "Body of Lies", Keanu in "The Maxtrix", etc., maybe it is a neutral???
Its still deemed a Bad Guy gun or atleast for clandestine use, famous in East/European Mafia circles, especially for high ranking gangsters for status. Very popular in the Balkans/Mediterraneans.
Bad guy guns = Compact, large capacity, folding stock, select fire, black or Communist bloc.
Example: MAC10/11s, UZIs, TEC-9s, MP5Ks, AKs of all types, TMP/SSPs, Sawed off shotguns, Bullpups (AUGs), any machine pistols... Skorpions!
Yes the IMFDB list is incomplete.
Last movie I spotted one recently was in Furious 7, Jason Statham (bad guy) pulls one out on Vin Diesel.
Bad guy guns = Compact, large capacity, folding stock, select fire, black or Communist bloc.
Example: MAC10/11s, UZIs, TEC-9s, MP5Ks, AKs of all types, TMP/SSPs, Sawed off shotguns, Bullpups (AUGs), any machine pistols... Skorpions!
Yes the IMFDB list is incomplete.
Last movie I spotted one recently was in Furious 7, Jason Statham (bad guy) pulls one out on Vin Diesel.
Kinda popular for "resistance forces" use.
Were it larger in calibre and in magazine-capacity, I'm sure more Americans would have glorified it.
