So, somebody wanna explain the 1911 hype?
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Keep them running by tweakin' them ?? I dunno....
All of my 1911's in the past (4 Norincos, 2 Springfields, 1 Colt) have never needed tweaking to get them going. They were just fabulous.
I've owned SIG's and Brownings, too. I loved the SIG but not it's mushy trigger. The 1911 trigger is the closest thing you can get to a clean and predictable breaking sniper rifle trigger. Even my Browning SFS 9mm has a heavy, but clean breaking trigger.
I love being able to take the pistol apart completely (where's my P226R?) right down to the last pin and spring, parkerize it and then put it all back together in 3 hours. That includes the sandblasting and then parkerizing process. So "do-it-yourself" instead of my P226R which I would not dare take it apart (pin and spring wise) for fear of losing so many little pieces.
I love being able to swap out parts and then upgrade grips for my wife's preferences. Now the pistol fits her hand and we have ANOTHER converted female to our cause. yuk, yuk, yuk
I love being able to select the caliber (45 or 9mm or 40 SW or .22LR) for my platforms, since I've got 3 of the 1911's in my locker. The .22LR conversion allows me to bring my sons to the range and practice muscle memory skills (drawing safely, quick reloads, double tapping) without spending $$ on .45 ACP or 9mm ammo.
I love being able to buy a shztload of different holsters from the CGN sponsors. Take them home, see if they work for my wife, or sons, or myself. Try the holster out during our 3 gun matches or IDPA practices. And of course, sell them quickly if the holster don't fit our styles. For example: I keep a couple of beat up USGI M12 holsters on belts and tactical setups to bring my sons' friends to the range. Slap those rigs on the newbies and already, the cool factor just surges. Then teach them safely how to "prove" a handgun clear, let the hammer go (downrange) and then holster. Wow, talk about happy campers and now safe newcomers to the sport.... For my wife who took my SDS tactical extender and SERPA rig, she just loves how I can mix and match different rigs to get her the right reach and comfort level carrying her Springfield 1911 9mm around the range, and that is taking into consideration how the holster rig can fit her stylish "Royal Robbins" outdoor pants. She's Italian, you know and she is all about the style. She jokingly asks why the Blackhawk SERPA holster only comes in OD Green. I asked if she would prefer Coyote Brown?? ha ha ha
I like how all of the 1911 holsters I get from my brother in Texas, accomodate my Browning SFS 9mm HP, and that way all the holsters for the 3 1911's in the family also fit the HP. EVERYTHING fits!! Life is good?
Yes, I would love to buy a GLOCK or another SIG if I could do all of the above with them. In the meantime, the 1911 works for the family (not just me or my wife).
And finally, when my son plays that game online... can't remember now... "Call of Duty?"... There's only ONE handgun choice and it happens to be the one that dad owns... yuk, yuk, yuk. Unlike CounterStrike, where you have a dizzying array of handguns in your inventory. ha ha ha
All good fun. Buy whatever works for you, your budget and your game. Don't be falsely persuaded by others....
Cheers all,
Barney
All of my 1911's in the past (4 Norincos, 2 Springfields, 1 Colt) have never needed tweaking to get them going. They were just fabulous.
I've owned SIG's and Brownings, too. I loved the SIG but not it's mushy trigger. The 1911 trigger is the closest thing you can get to a clean and predictable breaking sniper rifle trigger. Even my Browning SFS 9mm has a heavy, but clean breaking trigger.
I love being able to take the pistol apart completely (where's my P226R?) right down to the last pin and spring, parkerize it and then put it all back together in 3 hours. That includes the sandblasting and then parkerizing process. So "do-it-yourself" instead of my P226R which I would not dare take it apart (pin and spring wise) for fear of losing so many little pieces.
I love being able to swap out parts and then upgrade grips for my wife's preferences. Now the pistol fits her hand and we have ANOTHER converted female to our cause. yuk, yuk, yuk
I love being able to select the caliber (45 or 9mm or 40 SW or .22LR) for my platforms, since I've got 3 of the 1911's in my locker. The .22LR conversion allows me to bring my sons to the range and practice muscle memory skills (drawing safely, quick reloads, double tapping) without spending $$ on .45 ACP or 9mm ammo.
I love being able to buy a shztload of different holsters from the CGN sponsors. Take them home, see if they work for my wife, or sons, or myself. Try the holster out during our 3 gun matches or IDPA practices. And of course, sell them quickly if the holster don't fit our styles. For example: I keep a couple of beat up USGI M12 holsters on belts and tactical setups to bring my sons' friends to the range. Slap those rigs on the newbies and already, the cool factor just surges. Then teach them safely how to "prove" a handgun clear, let the hammer go (downrange) and then holster. Wow, talk about happy campers and now safe newcomers to the sport.... For my wife who took my SDS tactical extender and SERPA rig, she just loves how I can mix and match different rigs to get her the right reach and comfort level carrying her Springfield 1911 9mm around the range, and that is taking into consideration how the holster rig can fit her stylish "Royal Robbins" outdoor pants. She's Italian, you know and she is all about the style. She jokingly asks why the Blackhawk SERPA holster only comes in OD Green. I asked if she would prefer Coyote Brown?? ha ha ha
I like how all of the 1911 holsters I get from my brother in Texas, accomodate my Browning SFS 9mm HP, and that way all the holsters for the 3 1911's in the family also fit the HP. EVERYTHING fits!! Life is good?
Yes, I would love to buy a GLOCK or another SIG if I could do all of the above with them. In the meantime, the 1911 works for the family (not just me or my wife).
And finally, when my son plays that game online... can't remember now... "Call of Duty?"... There's only ONE handgun choice and it happens to be the one that dad owns... yuk, yuk, yuk. Unlike CounterStrike, where you have a dizzying array of handguns in your inventory. ha ha ha
All good fun. Buy whatever works for you, your budget and your game. Don't be falsely persuaded by others....
Cheers all,
Barney
If you have held, shot, and tinkered with a 1911 and enjoy it, then odds are you'll have enjoyed the experience more than with any other gun.
I'm one of those people who has not been able to get into 1911s; I've tried Norincos, Paras, and Springfields, but I have never been able to enjoy shooting any of them; at the end, I've always gone back to my Sig P226, and for now I think I can deal with 9mm vs. 45.
No one who has told me that I'm shooting a "girly" caliber at the range has yet volunteered to stand downrange.
Whatever happens, follow the last line of Hungry's advice above: Don't be falsely persuaded by others. It's good advice all around.
I'm one of those people who has not been able to get into 1911s; I've tried Norincos, Paras, and Springfields, but I have never been able to enjoy shooting any of them; at the end, I've always gone back to my Sig P226, and for now I think I can deal with 9mm vs. 45.
No one who has told me that I'm shooting a "girly" caliber at the range has yet volunteered to stand downrange.
Whatever happens, follow the last line of Hungry's advice above: Don't be falsely persuaded by others. It's good advice all around.
Well for me the preference for the 1911 comes in two simple points...
1) Accuracy: THis is a combination of the gun and the fit with the shooter. It also includes trigger pull. There is a reason the 1911 is the base for 99% of the best shooting guns in Combat shooting. The way it feels in the hand, the way it handles recoil and absorbs the shots all contribute to this.
2) Simplicity and ease of total takedown. It has fewer pieces in total than the CZ has in its trigger/sear mechanism.
For me being able to maintain my own guns AND shoot them to the best possible level of accuracy is all that is important in shooting. And for me, 1911's do this better than anything else in the pistol world.
If you want bombproof reliability or light weight at the expense of speed and target grade accuracy then consider the "euro" guns and plastic wonders. But personally I recommend trying everything and then making the choice. Most shooters I know would be happy to let you try their guns if you ask nicely and maybe contribute some money for ammo.
1) Accuracy: THis is a combination of the gun and the fit with the shooter. It also includes trigger pull. There is a reason the 1911 is the base for 99% of the best shooting guns in Combat shooting. The way it feels in the hand, the way it handles recoil and absorbs the shots all contribute to this.
2) Simplicity and ease of total takedown. It has fewer pieces in total than the CZ has in its trigger/sear mechanism.
For me being able to maintain my own guns AND shoot them to the best possible level of accuracy is all that is important in shooting. And for me, 1911's do this better than anything else in the pistol world.
If you want bombproof reliability or light weight at the expense of speed and target grade accuracy then consider the "euro" guns and plastic wonders. But personally I recommend trying everything and then making the choice. Most shooters I know would be happy to let you try their guns if you ask nicely and maybe contribute some money for ammo.
mr00jimbo said:Thanks for the clarifications; the accuracy thing seems to be synonamous with 1911s.
if i had my 12-6...
Another question though: for accuracy they seem to be ISPC king; but would you CCW one if you could pick any pistol on the market and the 10-round limit was lifted?
If 12(6) was lifted simultaneously:beerchug: , I would pick up a Wilson Combat Professional in a Galco Concealable Belt Holster with an extra two or three reliable 8rd mags. If you need three fifteen round mags for a situation, you should have brought a service rifle.
When I first started buying and shooting handguns you couldn't pick up a magazine that didn't have some gun writer or another telling you about how the 1911 was the be all to end all in shooting platforms. And because of this, and the fact that I have a tendancy to be a bit pig headed, it took me years to actually buy one. I already owned a Hi-Power, Glocks (3), Rugers, and a couple of Smiths (revolvers). I bought my first 1911 because I'd had the chance to shoot quite a few different versions of it by a couple of different makers and I found the more I shot it the more I liked it. I now own 2 and am looking at 2 more. Each different, each by a different manufacturer.
I think the attraction, beyond the fact that the ergonomics and design make it an excellent shooter, is the fact that unlike any other handgun out there your options for making it entirely "your" gun are limitless. My first 1911 was a Norinco plain jane government. Bought mostly because of the fantastic deal it was offered to me for. A couple of hundred in changes and it shoots better than many guns I've seen or tried for twice the price. It's a customizers dream toy. Ask anyone who's ever owned a Harley, making it "Mine" is half the fun.
I think the attraction, beyond the fact that the ergonomics and design make it an excellent shooter, is the fact that unlike any other handgun out there your options for making it entirely "your" gun are limitless. My first 1911 was a Norinco plain jane government. Bought mostly because of the fantastic deal it was offered to me for. A couple of hundred in changes and it shoots better than many guns I've seen or tried for twice the price. It's a customizers dream toy. Ask anyone who's ever owned a Harley, making it "Mine" is half the fun.
hey jimbo
i picked up my norc 1911 because i was a student on a budget. why are 1911s so popular? well, there are probably a number of reasons, but the fact that it is a very well designed and comfortable firearm doesn't hurt either. considering its age and history, its also an icon.
i picked up my norc 1911 because i was a student on a budget. why are 1911s so popular? well, there are probably a number of reasons, but the fact that it is a very well designed and comfortable firearm doesn't hurt either. considering its age and history, its also an icon.
OneBarfly
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I love the look and that chubby little round. Cheap to reload and knocks the snot out of bowling pins. Try that with yer wonderines. Egomonic, not if you have a wide palm, at least not without a beavertail.
Rod B
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Claybuster said:Despite approaching the century mark they still do things that other pistols don't or can't do and no pistol is more versatile.
A stellar record as a combat pistol and with some refinements one of the best centerfire bullseye pistols in existence.
They fit and feel good. Holding a 1911 isn't like holding one of those wide-body pistols that feel like you're holding a 2x4 in your hand.
They're made of steel and feel like guns not the plastic little abberations that have more in common with my childhood capguns.
Triggers are often outstanding or can easily be made so. Many quality 1911 pistols come with trigger pulls that will make you forget the creepy, gritty, heavy pulls of the SIG, Glock, USP.
And they have style.
+1 & if i may add,
Holding a 1911 feels to me like the handshake of an old friend.
Rod.
I recently joined the 1911 world, got my self a tuned up Norc 1911 commander, it is a very nice gun to shoot and it has a simplicity that grows on you. I will never take a 1911 over my Sig 226, but I can see why people like them.
The 1911 cost me around $550 tuned & shipped. Marstars also sells the Bul 1911 for a reasonable price and the Norc 1911 are good value an can be easily upgraded as your budget allows.
The 1911 cost me around $550 tuned & shipped. Marstars also sells the Bul 1911 for a reasonable price and the Norc 1911 are good value an can be easily upgraded as your budget allows.
