So what are the legal requirments for flintlocks?

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I shot a .45cal and a .50cal flintlock today at the heritage festival at my gun club and im afraid im hooked on the muzzleloaders :D and I was hearing some things about them so I figured Id ask you guys to clarify.

Do you have to have PAL to buy a NEW flintlock? how about other types of M/L's?

Do you have to register them?

Can you hunt with them in general rifle season?

what the heck is pyrodex? :confused:

Ive got some more questions but they can wait untill the first couple questions get answered.

thanks guys
Kyle
 
Flinktlock longguns don't require a license to purchase (new or used) or registration. I believe that flintlock, matchlock, and wheel lock m/l's are the only m/l's that are exempt from licenseing and registration
 
Yes, you can hunt with them. Pyrodex is a replacement for original black powder that is supposedly less dirty to fire.....you do not need a PAL to buy a flinter, but you do for a cap lock........
 
I don't know about BC, but I carried a muzzleloader frequently during regular high power seasons in AB and Man. Give your you local fishcop a call.
 
ok so you don't need a PAL to buy them. Thats awesome :D

but do you need one to buy balls or to buy the black powder?

what about flintlock pistols, are they still restricted or are they excepmt as well? (probably prohibited or something knowing how our laws work :( )

what else do I need besides the gun, powder, and balls?? be very throrough as I know absolutly nothing. when you buy a gun will it come with everything you'll need?

Can you carry a flinter loaded in your vehicle when your hunting?

Whats a good fairly cheap flintlock? I was looking at Thompson/centre arms but Im not sure on the prices of them.

do they work in the rain or in windy/####y weather?

oh and do all flintlocks have that double trigger thing? I forget what they called the second trigger but you know what im talking about.

whats the practicalities of trying for small game like partridge or squirels etc with a flintlock? im thinking Id like to get .50cal so we can use that as a refrence for hunting situation. how big/how small of game would a .50cal flinter be good for?

like i said, I really know nothing about M/L at all, I really have no idea of their capabailities or limitations so please be as detalied as you can.

thanks
Kyle
 
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Chopperhead said:
ok so you don't need a PAL to buy them. Thats awesome :D

but do you need one to buy balls or to buy the black powder?

Technically no, but most places WILL want to see a PAL for black powder purchases as they don't differentiate between black powder and cartridge ammunition. Worst case, you could make your own powder - istructions all over the net ;)

what about flintlock pistols, are they still restricted or are they excepmt as well? (probably prohibited or something knowing how our laws work :( )

Restricted unless made before 1897.

what else do I need besides the gun, powder, and balls?? be very throrough as I know absolutly nothing. when you buy a gun will it come with everything you'll need?

short starter, nipple wrench, powder horn, priming horn, flint knapping hammer, cow's knee (if you hunt in the rain), possibles bag, black powder solvent of some type, patch knife, patch material, screwdriver or other ####-screw instrument to tighten in your flints, scrap leather to hold your flints in the ####, flints and a patch worm.

Can you carry a flinter loaded in your vehicle when your hunting?

Yes, if the pan is not primed.


Whats a good fairly cheap flintlock? I was looking at Thompson/centre arms but Im not sure on the prices of them.

T/C Arms Hawken, Lyman Great Plains or Trade Gun, Pedersolli and some Armi Sport Kentucky rifles are all good "off the shelf" guns. the Pedersoli and Armi Sport guns require shorter flints. Avoid Traditions and CVA - they are junk. Lyman is probably the best buy.

do they work in the rain or in windy/s**ty weather?

Only if you know how to use them properly ;)

oh and do all flintlocks have that double trigger thing? I forget what they called the second trigger but you know what im talking about.

Set trigger, and no, not all of them have them. Depends on the model you opt for. The set trigger will still fire without "setting" it. You only use the set feature for longer range shots that you have time to set up for.

whats the practicalities of trying for small game like partridge or squirels etc with a flintlock? im thinking Id like to get .50cal so we can use that as a refrence for hunting situation. how big/how small of game would a .50cal flinter be good for?

I wouldn't shoot a partridge with a .50 cal ANYTHING. If you buy a smoothbore fusil or similat musket, you can shoot shot in it as well as patched round ball. Don;t shoot shot in a rifled bore though. Most small game flint hunters get a .32 cal squirel gun or they get a black powder shotgun to begin with.

like i said, I really know nothing about M/L at all, I really have no idea of their capabailities or limitations so please be as detalied as you can.

thanks
Kyle

hope that helps!
 
Ok so how much money does a T/C Arms Hawken usually go for??

Where can you find blackpowder?? preferably somewhere in Northern BC if anyone knows a place that would be good. It's very diffciult to find up here. I work in a gun/hunting/fishing shop and all we have is smokelesss because we can't get it shipped up here. :mad:

im not sure if I'll ever get all dressed up like some of you guys do lol but where the heck do you find those clothes?? do you make them yourself??

If I buy one are there any M/L shooters from the Prince George area on here that could give me some lessons on what im doing? I dont learn well with videos or reading stuff, I really need to actualy be showen and have someone watch me while I do it and be able to walk me through everything.

Oh and I happen to really like the Kentucky style rifles, ive found that they all are in .45cal though. is there any reason why or is it just a coincidence?


Thanks guys
Kyle.
 
For clothes you can look there:

http://www.flyingcanoetraders.com/content/accueil.asp
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/categories/catList.aspx?catID=10
http://jas-townsend.com/index.php

For large game I would personnaly stick to .54 caliber and over.

Chopperhead said:
Ok so how much money does a T/C Arms Hawken usually go for??

Where can you find blackpowder?? preferably somewhere in Northern BC if anyone knows a place that would be good. It's very diffciult to find up here. I work in a gun/hunting/fishing shop and all we have is smokelesss because we can't get it shipped up here. :mad:

im not sure if I'll ever get all dressed up like some of you guys do lol but where the heck do you find those clothes?? do you make them yourself??

If I buy one are there any M/L shooters from the Prince George area on here that could give me some lessons on what im doing? I dont learn well with videos or reading stuff, I really need to actualy be showen and have someone watch me while I do it and be able to walk me through everything.

Oh and I happen to really like the Kentucky style rifles, ive found that they all are in .45cal though. is there any reason why or is it just a coincidence?


Thanks guys
Kyle.
 
Clothes

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Shirts from old sheets,Pants from party hunting(2 elk or 4 deer per pair):D
Regards,Jed.
 
Crockett rifle

kevinh said:
not that i know anything about muzzleloading but
i found this while searching around, do a search on google

"32 caliber Traditions Crockett Rifle"
looks purty
The Traditions Crockett rifle (cap,though) is featured in july/aug Backwoodsman magazine. It gives the good and bad points of this econo. priced rifle.
Regards,Jed.
 
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