Some Shooting Questions

Rohann

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Hi all,
I have a few questions regarding some fairly basic shooting principles, but I'm not too sure of them (especially looking for Longshot here):
-For shooting prone with a bipod, do you test and adjust for natural POA?
-Do you want bone on bone, bone on meat or meat on bone for: prone, sitting, kneeling?
-For breathing: do you shoot at the bottom of your breath with a max hold of 3 seconds or do you shoot mid-breath with a 6 second hold?
-Do you squeeze the trigger with the tip of your finger or do you pull with the meaty part of the middle of your finger?

Thanks all,
-Rohann
 
Rohann said:
-For breathing: do you shoot at the bottom of your breath with a max hold of 3 seconds or do you shoot mid-breath with a 6 second hold?
-Do you squeeze the trigger with the tip of your finger or do you pull with the meaty part of the middle of your finger?
I've heard many times that it's better to shoot mid-breath, but personally I find it too un-natural. I find that shooting at the bottom of your breath makes it easier to relax.

For the trigger pull, I'd say I use the space between the tip and the meaty middle. I find that most stable and comfortable.
 
Always adjust you body for a natural POA. You may be able to force the position a bit and get away with it a few times, but not everytime.
For position shooting bone on meat, or meat on bone however you want to look at it.
In regards to breathing this has changed in the last 20 or so years. Mid-breath was considered best for many years. This has changed to end of breath (expelled but not forced out). Reasons being it is more consistant the 1/2 a breath. What is half 50%-55%-40%.
Again the cross hairs should be settled on the center of the target with the breath expelled, all part of the natural POA.
What part of the trigger depend on how much weight you need to break the shot. For a match smallbore rifle with a 2-6 oz trigger the tip of the finger works best. For a trigger set for 3 1/2 lbs, the middle pad of the finger will work best for a consistant straight squeeze rearward.
 
there are as many shooting techniques as there are shooters. you are going to find alot of info here, but you will have to adjust is to a style that you feel comfortable with.

try shooting mid breath and at the bottoms of a breath. shoot with the trigger on different points on your finger. etc.

learn as many theories and techniques as you can and try them all.

here is a link to a us military sniper training manual. it has a fantastic chapter on marksmanship.

http://www.snipersparadise.com/fm2310/fm2310.htm
 
rmkm70 said:
there are as many shooting techniques as there are shooters. you are going to find alot of info here, but you will have to adjust is to a style that you feel comfortable with.

try shooting mid breath and at the bottoms of a breath. shoot with the trigger on different points on your finger. etc.

learn as many theories and techniques as you can and try them all.

here is a link to a us military sniper training manual. it has a fantastic chapter on marksmanship.

http://www.snipersparadise.com/fm2310/fm2310.htm

i have the US navy SEAL sniper training manua;l in PDF format if your looking for some interesting reading. PM if you want a copy i can E-mail it to you*ps its like 6MB+*
 
A small piece of physiological trivia... many people have a parasympathetic nervous sytem that is more active than others. The result is that when you exhale, your heart rate goes down. (and picks back up when you inhale) It becomes most noticable exhaling at mid breath. If you are someone that likes to time shots between heart beats this is an advantage.
 
Obtunded said:
A small piece of physiological trivia... many people have a parasympathetic nervous sytem that is more active than others. The result is that when you exhale, your heart rate goes down. (and picks back up when you inhale) It becomes most noticable exhaling at mid breath. If you are someone that likes to time shots between heart beats this is an advantage.


Good point... I used to shoot at bottom of breath, but due to the impact of breathing on the sympathetic (fight and flight nervous system)and parasympathetic (relaxing nervous system). I now shoot on the exhale, this seems to work better for me and I get more "suprize" discharges which land closer to the X. :D

I prefer meat on bone and for trigger finger I like that sweet spot Yuri spoke of.

Just my 2 cents.
 
here for anyone that wants it
ht tp://f13.putfile.com/getfile/12724023084696211716181737808069624545701171582489130/SealSniperManual.pdf its big 28MB but its the entire SEAL sniper training manual enjoy
 
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I have PDFs of:
US_Army_Counter_Sniper_Guide
FMFM1-3B Marine Corpps Sniping guide
FMFRP 12-80 Kill or Get Killed -Riot control,techniques,manhandling,and close combat for Military and Police.
USMC Scout Sniper - manual using the M40A1

I can upload them if any are interested
 
Thanks for the info guys!
I've always been shooting at the bottom of my breath, as I find that the most natural and the point at which I'm most relaxed. Breathing out slows my heartbeat more so than being at the bottom of my breath, but I don't feel nearly as comfortable pulling a trigger in this time as your chest moves quite a bit.
As for finger pull, I've always been pulling with the tip of my finger and it's worked pretty well thus far. I don't know why it is, but I don't feel very comfortable pulling with the meat of the finger as it feels like I'm pulling the trigger slightly diagonally. I've got about a 2.75-3lb trigger pull; should I try pulling with the meaty part?

Thanks a lot guys, it's much appreciated,
-Rohann
 
well for me only the tip of my finger touches the trigger as low as I can with out touching the trigger guard

Jamie
 
Rohann said:
should I try pulling with the meaty part?
Just do what works best for you. If you aren't comfortable doing it that way, then don't force yourself. If it bothers you, it'll just distract you.
 
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