Sometimes the truth isnt what you want to hear

Wrong Way said:
Yeah...those Churchill gunmaker bubbas sure turned out some 140-160 dollar crap eh?

All sporters are NOT created (or valued) equally!

I sold a Churchill with outstanding walnut, a machined top, fantastic bluing and an old scope for 450.00....and could have gotten more.

Why/how can anyone put a price on this gun when they don't even know what it is? :confused:
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Well I'm referring to the vast majority of Enfield sporters that turn up in this country that are done with a saw in someones basement and turns a 400$ gun into a 150$ gun. Yes, I know there are parker hale and Churchill factory sporters that are worth alot more than a basement bubba job. I guess we would need pics to say for sure.
 
What most purists here fail to recognize is that when the majority of Bubba work was done on Lee Enfield rifles they cost $9.95 for No. 1 Mk. 3 and $14.95 for #4 Mk. 1 in Eatons. They were stacked like cordwood and we thought the supply to be endless.
Not to worry. The endless supply of bubba's work upped the value of really nice unaltered ones left.
 
Prices were similar down here. No1Mk3 $9.95, No4 Mk1 $12.95 at Sears Roebuck.
But that was many many years ago.
I remember Colt New Services and 1917 S&W's for $30.
Too soon ve gets old und too late ve gets schmart.
 
Ok so i have a printed off picture since she couldnt figure out email. the stock looks to be a professional job. the stock even has one of those black tips on the forestock with the white banding. ill scan the picture when i get home in 8 hours anyways.

Once again she asked me to get as much as i can for it since she needs to pay off some bills.

If someone wants to text my phone i can send a temp phone camera copy of the picture until i get home. you can pm me for my number.
 
As some else stated with a few donations from some of us on here and we could probably raise a few dollars .
I would donate $20 towards you giving her a really good price for it , If you collected the donations and then sold the rifle for her just add the donations to the money you sell it for.Who knows she may have a $900 rifle for sale after all...
 
If you collected the donations and then sold the rifle for her just add the donations to the money you sell it for.Who knows she may have a $900 rifle for sale after all...
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that works if someone wants to handle donations. i was going to buy it myself back when i thought it was just another cheap bubba and try to pay her extra. but we'lll see what someone will pay for it first.
 
drache said:
that works if someone wants to handle donations. i was going to buy it myself back when i thought it was just another cheap bubba and try to pay her extra. but we'lll see what someone will pay for it first.
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There is no substitute for pics and report on the bore and headspace, wood condition, metal condition.
Otherwise we're all just p***ing in the wind.

Some of the commercial sporters like Parker Hale or Churchill stamped their name on them AFAIK.
The black tip on the stock does make it sound higher grade than the run of the mill cutdown.
 
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Sorry scanning a picture that was printed from a computer doesn't equal good quality. I will be trying to head out there this weekend to take a personal look at the rifle.
 
Having see in pics now, I'd not pay more than $150 for that... thing. I hate those rear mounts too - not stable at all. It's probably a Parker Hale from the 1970's based on the white line.

Not terribly valuable I'm afraid.
 
It looks to me just like a Parker-Hale Custom No4 with their older style mounts pictured in their add on the Supreme No4. My Standard No4 has Parker-Hale stamped on top of the barrel just ahead of the action right beside its made in England import stamp and proof marks.

I love my Standard's accuracy. I can't see them putting poor quality mounts on one. That was their whole business.
If it is in fact a Custom No4 or a Supreme I'd say she'll have no issue getting more than $150 for it. If it turns out that's what it is maybe I'll even talk to the Boss n c if she'll let mne make an offer on it. Very nice rifle!

Have u thought about doing this as an auction style sale? Maybe call a time frame to leave it up for once you have all the info on it and whoever's off is the highest at the end gets it, no dibs?
 
Looks liks a Parker Hale Deluxe that has seen some use. I'd say $125 to $175 depending on over-all condition. Perhaps a little more if the bore was mint.
 
Riflechair said:
Looks liks a Parker Hale Deluxe that has seen some use. I'd say $125 to $175 depending on over-all condition. Perhaps a little more if the bore was mint.
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I'd like to put in the first bid at $125, given the myriad sporters in the EE going for north of that, in comparatively poor shape. Some of the better commercial conversions are going to become collectors items in their own right. I'd say that's at least a $200 gun, with the nicer sporter stock and scope. If nothing else, it's a period correct bubba :p and that's gotta be worth something.
 
This will sell for more than $200. On a good day, it could even get $300. (in near mint shape). Is that a gash at the back of the forend? That would make it less interesting.
 
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