Sort of newbish questions about PAL/RPAL

Zesty

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Greetings all,

Before I start making phone calls to the abyss with my questions, I thought I'd run them by some of the folks here.

A little history to help people answer:

In 1991 I completed the Manitoba Hunter and Firearm Safety course. I was 15 years old at the time. Though I went frequently went target shooting and hunting with my Dad, I never followed through and got my FAC when I turned 18. My Dad is terminally ill and currently owns 4 or 5 rifles (some were my grandfather's) that I do not want to see the RCMP take away upon his passing. So I decided to finally get my PAL. But I also figured that if I'm going that far, I may as well go all out and get my RPAL so I can spend time with my gf's Dad. He owns pistols but doesn't shoot anymore for lack of people to go to the range with.

Now, according to the PAL application, "In the provinces of Manitoba and Quebec only, many hunter safety or similar courses taken prior to 1995 were approved as being equal to the CFSC requirement."

So am I correct in assuming that I am eligible for my PAL even though I was a minor when I took the course? If so, what do I need to provide as proof? I have my old yellow Hunter's Safety card, but it's seen better days and the month in the date is completely illegible.

Now the part that really confuses me. The RPAL application states, "To get a Possession and Acquisition Licence for restricted or prohibited firearms, you must have passed two safety tests: the Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC) and the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC).
Complete Box 20 b) if this applies to you. NOTE: If you passed the CFSC before February 1, 1999 you are considered to have met both these requirements.
"

So by completing the Hunter & Firearm Safety course prior to 1995 which is considered equivalent to the pre-1999 CFSC, do I still have to take the CRFSC?

Also, my gf is taking the CFSC on the 18th of December. I will be going with her as "support" and as a brush up. If for some reason I were to fail the course, and I am currently eligible under the pre-1995 thing, will I lose that eligibility?

I don't know about anyone else, but figuring out these firearms laws is a lot like trying to get the square root of a potato. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
"...do not want to see the RCMP take away upon his passing..." My condolences. They won't take 'em. The executor of the estate can hold 'em without permits.
If you're still in MB, call the CPFO.
 
If you're taking the course anyways don't bother with the hassel of all the other stuff. I don't really think you're previouse course will suffice. The chances of failing the course are very slim. it's common sence. if you've spend any time around a gun you'll do fine.
 
I would advize u to take the cource and don't get tangled up in gov' paper work, there's not anough time in the day. the cources are straight forward,don't sweat it you'll do just fine.(unless u don't understand english).lol. Sorry to here about your father,be strong and the future is forward.
 
As for spending time with your Gf's dad, you don't need a Restricted Pal to shoot a handgun as long as he has one and you're under his supervision, but by all means get your own RPAL too so you can get your own handguns too.
 
I would advize u to take the cource and don't get tangled up in gov' paper work, there's not anough time in the day. the cources are straight forward,don't sweat it you'll do just fine.(unless u don't understand english).lol. Sorry to here about your father,be strong and the future is forward.

Holy spellcheck Batman........:D
 
Like the others said, just do the whole course today, or 'challenge' the written and practical, if that's allowed for you and you feel very confident. I used to have an FAC and Restricteds a long time ago, but it's been so long that the system doesn't really care about that far in the past. I studied the two books (Restricted and Non-restricted) with my friend who's still new to centerfire, and we both got near perfect scores on both written tests, and perfect on the practical safe handling tests. I'm waiting for my PAL to come back, it's "in progress".

If I were you, I'd do as I just described, or even take the full course if challenging the tests isn't allowed out your way. Reason being, the CFC might think you aren't current, might have forgotten stuff since then, and they might see your paperwork languish. So do all the tests (send in copies of the results), join a club (send copy of your application), and follow the advice on the "Shorten PAL approval times" thread here in the n00b area!
 
The executor of the estate can hold 'em without permits.
That's actually what sort of scares me. The executor is my stepmom, and with all the stress she's been under with my Dad's illness, I can see them removing the rifles from the house for "safety concerns". So I just want to have all my ducks in a row so it doesn't come to that. One of these rifles is very old, and another is one that my Dad and I restored together years ago while he taught me about rifles and hunting.

The chances of failing the course are very slim. it's common sence. if you've spend any time around a gun you'll do fine.
I'm pretty confident around firearms, but I guess there's always that underlying fear of failing a test, or ending up with the examiner from hell.

Thanks to everyone for the info. I guess the best course of action will be to start from scratch and read everything in this forum about expediting my PAL.

Definitely going to go for my restricted as well. I need a hobby, and I've always wanted to build an AR, and spend copious amounts of time at an indoor range with a nice 9mm or 45.
 
That's actually what sort of scares me. The executor is my stepmom, and with all the stress she's been under with my Dad's illness, I can see them removing the rifles from the house for "safety concerns". So I just want to have all my ducks in a row so it doesn't come to that. One of these rifles is very old, and another is one that my Dad and I restored together years ago while he taught me about rifles and hunting.


I'm pretty confident around firearms, but I guess there's always that underlying fear of failing a test, or ending up with the examiner from hell.

Thanks to everyone for the info. I guess the best course of action will be to start from scratch and read everything in this forum about expediting my PAL.

Definitely going to go for my restricted as well. I need a hobby, and I've always wanted to build an AR, and spend copious amounts of time at an indoor range with a nice 9mm or 45.

Good luck. Hope everything goes as planned.
 
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