Southern Ontario - 7x57 Mauser OK?

[MauserMike]

By my calculations 7mm translates to .275 calibre. I don't know how that's measured, land to land or grove to grove.

In any case, is 7mm OK for hunting in southern Ontario with our retarded .275 calibre maximum rules? (as if this cartridge is "safer" than 30-30 )

 

[jiminthecorner]

NO! 7mm =.284 cal . Try 6.5@ .264. I use a 6.5x54MS so don't have a "hunting" problem, However,at the farm I've used a 9.3x62 for "yotes when really couldn't find anything close at hand.

 

[MauserMike]

.270 Winchester is actually .277 and that cartridge is OK. (at least according to the Chuck Hawks website, not certain of accuracy)

.172" - .17 HMR
.223" - .22 Short, Long, Long Rifle
.224" - .22 WMR, .222 Remington, .223 Remington, .22-250 Varminter, .223 WSSM
.243" - .243 Winchester, 6mm Remington, .243 WSSM, .240 Wby. Mag.
.257" - .25-06, .257 Wby. Mag.
.264" - 6.5x55, .260 Remington, .264 Win. Mag.
.277" - .270 Winchester, .270 WSM, .270 Wby. Mag.
.284" - 7mm-08 Remington, 7x57 Mauser, .280 Remington, 7mm Mag. (all)
.308" - .30 Carbine, .30-30, .300 Savage, .308 Winchester, .30-06, .300 Mag. (all)

 

[LeePeterson]

NO! 7mm =.284 cal .

If there calculating size that way the 270 is .277" which every CO seems to say is legal.

 

[dumbdawg]

what part of ontario were you planning on hunting in

 

[MauserMike]

"You may not use a rifle of greater calibre than .275, except a
flintlock or percussion cap muzzle-loading gun, for hunting
in the counties of: Brant, Elgin, Essex, Huron Lambton,
Middlesex, Northumberland, Oxford, Perth and Wellington
and the regional municipalities of Chatham/Kent, Durham,
Haldimand-Norfolk, Halton, Hamilton-Wentworth, Niagara,
Peel, Waterloo and York and the City of Toronto."

That about sums up every direction 2 hours drive from here. I should ask for a faxed ruling from MNR but I would hate to bugger everything up for the .270 shooters if they say no! This law is absolutely stupid. MNR needs a lesson in physics. I need something with a little more punch than my .22LR for shooting coyotes and every other rifle I own is forbidden because of this.

 

[Doug]

This has been known for at least thirty-five years, but the understanding has been that the .275 calibre restriction allows anything "up to" .270 Win. The 7 x 57 as JITC notes is .284 and over the restriction, and therefore not legal where the restriction is in effect.

Now a couple thoughts come to mind:

1. If the hypothetical over-zealous CO decides that your rifle chambered in .270 Win is in fact a .277 cal and therefore over the .275 restriction and CHARGES you, I am not certain that there is any case law that would prevent your conviction.

2. I would wager an informed guess that almost nobody uses a .270 Win in those areas where the restrictions apply, so talking about this is kind of like masturbation. It might feel good, but nothing much comes of it.

3. With the McGuilty government starving the MNR in general and the COs in particular, there is zero chance that a CO is going to waste time and truck gas checking out what calibre rifle a fellow is using to plug groundhogs.

Doug

 

[Claybuster]

I also live in the area and the .275 rule as it was explained to me doesn't cover the .270 because the regulation refers to a "rifle of not greater caliber than .275" and while the bullet is .277" the rifle bore is less than .275.

What has always intrigued me is the possibility of hunting in those counties with a rifle and cartridges marked .275 Rigby. I wonder if a CO would realize that the .275 Rigby is just another name for the 7x57?

 

[bushwhacker]

Claybuster has it right!!!

 

[Yuri Orlov]

"You may not use a rifle of greater calibre than .275, except a
flintlock or percussion cap muzzle-loading gun, for hunting
in the counties of: Essex

I'd double check with the closest town/city before you go out. Amherstburg...which is in Essex County, now has a limit of .243.

 

[ratherbefishin]

I'd stick with a 65x55 swede,and be well armed for any deer,moose or black bear I came across