Spanish Guns
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My Astra 2000 is a well made little pistol, very high quality and functions flawlessly. They made them up as the Colt Junior as well.
My Llama Comanche is an OK revolver. It's been reliable but when you compare it to a K frame S&W it's no comparison.
My Llama Comanche is an OK revolver. It's been reliable but when you compare it to a K frame S&W it's no comparison.
I had a friend back in the day who had a Star Firestar in .45...I don't know that it would impress me today but ten years ago I thought it was pretty good.
Llama .45s are a little suspect, I think...I never had one but when I was hanging around a lot of US gun guys in the mid- to late-nineties, you'd see them once in a while. I had the impression they were a little long on fiesta/siesta and a little short on qualitesta controlesta, but that was a while ago.
I did spend a fair bit of time trying to talk that Firestar off my friend. It was a carry gun for him and he shot it quite a bit and it seemed quite solid. But that was far enough back that people were still skeptical of "plastic guns" and nobody was used to the idea that you'd run a gun for 2 or 3 thousands rounds between stoppages yet. It's hard to say if it would stack up against the standards most shooters have today...I don't really think it would but you never know.
Llama .45s are a little suspect, I think...I never had one but when I was hanging around a lot of US gun guys in the mid- to late-nineties, you'd see them once in a while. I had the impression they were a little long on fiesta/siesta and a little short on qualitesta controlesta, but that was a while ago.
I did spend a fair bit of time trying to talk that Firestar off my friend. It was a carry gun for him and he shot it quite a bit and it seemed quite solid. But that was far enough back that people were still skeptical of "plastic guns" and nobody was used to the idea that you'd run a gun for 2 or 3 thousands rounds between stoppages yet. It's hard to say if it would stack up against the standards most shooters have today...I don't really think it would but you never know.
Yeah, some Colt 1911s are annoyingly poorly built.
In fact my Llama 1911 9mm is the most accurate 9mm I have. I was surprised at first as well. I have the full set of Llama 1911's except for the 380, as well as a few Astra and Taurus(not Spanish, I know) revolvers. No problems with any of them and pleasant to shoot
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It doesn't seem to matter which country makes a gun, they all have good and bad manufacturers. I had a few from all of them and my favs were a Llama 1911 9mm from the mid 1980's. Nice blueing, sweet trigger and a joy to shoot.
An Astra 22, sort of a baby browning knock off.
I also still have 2 Star Firestars, both in starvel (type of stainless metal). 1 is a 9 mm and the other is a 40 s&w, they look identical, so I call them the "evil twins". I would like to find one in 45 acp and make it triplets, but no lucks so far.
An Astra 22, sort of a baby browning knock off.
I also still have 2 Star Firestars, both in starvel (type of stainless metal). 1 is a 9 mm and the other is a 40 s&w, they look identical, so I call them the "evil twins". I would like to find one in 45 acp and make it triplets, but no lucks so far.
Spanish guns
I collect, and so the Spanish guns I have tend to be old: a JO LO AR and a Modelo 1921, as well as a Destroyer carbine (same cartridge as the 1921). They're a little odd by the standards of this continent, but all well-built and reliable. Many years ago, for a short while I had one of the Star PD .45s. It was a handful to shoot for me, but a very nice gun, at the time the smallest .45. For a long time Spanish handguns were in one way or another copies of other manufacturers, but in the last decades, more original. They built their businesses on their handguns being simple, inexpensive, reliable, usually heavier than they needed to be, and made in great numbers. In WWI, almost all the French sidearms were made in Spain, and in WWII elements of the German Luftwaffe were supplied by Spanish handgun makers.
I collect, and so the Spanish guns I have tend to be old: a JO LO AR and a Modelo 1921, as well as a Destroyer carbine (same cartridge as the 1921). They're a little odd by the standards of this continent, but all well-built and reliable. Many years ago, for a short while I had one of the Star PD .45s. It was a handful to shoot for me, but a very nice gun, at the time the smallest .45. For a long time Spanish handguns were in one way or another copies of other manufacturers, but in the last decades, more original. They built their businesses on their handguns being simple, inexpensive, reliable, usually heavier than they needed to be, and made in great numbers. In WWI, almost all the French sidearms were made in Spain, and in WWII elements of the German Luftwaffe were supplied by Spanish handgun makers.
Most Spanish guns are very good indeed (some Llamas do suck however). Spain is very underrated on the international scene - they are generally very good when it comes to firearms. Their Military and Intelligence services are under rated too.
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I had an Astra cub(pre 68) once. It seemed well built but the firing pin was broke.
