Speaking of Shermans
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Brutus
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I personally have no idea, but I bet you Mr Saldier at the Base Borden Military Museum knows. He is the curator there.
Go to thier website for contact information.
PS:A Legion branch may have acquired it for a public display elsewhere, as well.
Go to thier website for contact information.
PS:A Legion branch may have acquired it for a public display elsewhere, as well.
I was taking some photos once out on Crown Drilling Rig 4, took a peek in the little pumphouse for the mud pump.... and there was an old Jimmie 6-71 rattling away.... with the control panel from a Sherman bolted onto it!
Just like Old Home Week in the oil-patch!
Likely came from one of the Tanks the XII Manitoba Dragoons and the Fort Garry Horse kept out at CFB Shilo.... until the Government decided that we were all useless and could be thrown away.
Just like Old Home Week in the oil-patch!
Likely came from one of the Tanks the XII Manitoba Dragoons and the Fort Garry Horse kept out at CFB Shilo.... until the Government decided that we were all useless and could be thrown away.
Lancaster from Lakeshore found new home at ht tp://www.casmuseum.org/
It is slowly being restored to "static display" status however i have heard something about
uprgading it to "taxing condition" meaning that it will be able to roll around the runway on its own power.I don't know if thats right or still the case.
This museum is always a great hit with kids so bring them along.
It is slowly being restored to "static display" status however i have heard something about
uprgading it to "taxing condition" meaning that it will be able to roll around the runway on its own power.I don't know if thats right or still the case.
This museum is always a great hit with kids so bring them along.
The Sherman still soldiers on in various guises. This past weekend I was driving from Nelson, BC down to Midway and saw one being used as a chassis for drilling/boring equipment on a road expansion project. It was a real old timer with the old type suspension. A year or 2 previous there was another one being used on the Highway 97 expansion project between Summerland and Peachland. It was one of the later models with the center guided track.
The last one I saw in Cdn military use was at 202 Workshop in Montreal in the 1980s where it was being used, sans turret, as a shop tractor. I had also seen them used as static pillboxes by various kibbutz's in Israel in 1979.
The last one I saw in Cdn military use was at 202 Workshop in Montreal in the 1980s where it was being used, sans turret, as a shop tractor. I had also seen them used as static pillboxes by various kibbutz's in Israel in 1979.
angrysoldier
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there is a sherman recovery model at base borden where the teach the v techs, and shes a runner!
Brings back memories .... 
Here's some 40+ year old pics from my very first day on the tank ranges as a fresh young Crew Commander. Two of my first few engagements (different tanks) at 1,500 to 2,800 yards were captured in the color pics below. What the second one didn't show was the result of the 76mm back blast spinning me around in the turret, blowing my beret off my head and over the back deck, plus burning (singe effect) my eyebrows and hair bad enough that it crumbled to the touch.
Of course, I straightened myself up and tried to look "very cool" to all of my buddies watching.
Regards,
Badger
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Here's some 40+ year old pics from my very first day on the tank ranges as a fresh young Crew Commander. Two of my first few engagements (different tanks) at 1,500 to 2,800 yards were captured in the color pics below. What the second one didn't show was the result of the 76mm back blast spinning me around in the turret, blowing my beret off my head and over the back deck, plus burning (singe effect) my eyebrows and hair bad enough that it crumbled to the touch.
Of course, I straightened myself up and tried to look "very cool" to all of my buddies watching.
Regards,
Badger
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Qualifications:
Sherman (M4A2E8) & Centurion
Group 3 Gunner (RCAC)
Group 2 Driver Mechanic Tracked (RCAC)
Group 2 Signaler (RCAC)
CC and Troop Leader Instructor[/size]
One million, nine hundred and ninety-eight thousand, seven hundred and ninety-five FPE per shot.
Enough to make EVEN the mighty .30-'06 pale into insignificance.
Anyone who was in those things is hearing-impaired to one degree or another. Very few ever got a pension out of it. LOTS of things just 'never happened'. It wasn't sloppiness; it was the fact that we could have been in a war almost any day and we all knew it. The books just do not communicate the awful tensions of the time.
Wonderful photos, Badger! We weren't allowed to carry cameras, so I have none.
Thank you.
Enough to make EVEN the mighty .30-'06 pale into insignificance.
Anyone who was in those things is hearing-impaired to one degree or another. Very few ever got a pension out of it. LOTS of things just 'never happened'. It wasn't sloppiness; it was the fact that we could have been in a war almost any day and we all knew it. The books just do not communicate the awful tensions of the time.
Wonderful photos, Badger! We weren't allowed to carry cameras, so I have none.
Thank you.
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Those are quite literally called "tank drills." They are a lot nicer to work on as a helper than an Airtrac 123.
I worked for two blasting companies in the Okanagan that each had one. I was surprised when they told me that they were all built on old tank chassis's.
Chances are I worked for the blasters using the one on Hwy. 97.
You should go thru DVA for hearing loss. There is a new provision for folks suffering from tinitus as a result of weapons firing.
Ear defenders have been mandatory for the past 30 yrs or so, but before that they were not issued and you had to wear a steel helmet on the range to amplify the noise to boot. I recall the muzzle blast of the 20pdr on the Centurion which kind of caved your head in so you opened your mouth to equalize the pressure on the eardrums. They did issue those itty-bitty rubber earplugs for that. Small comfort.
I am the proud owner of a set of hearing aids compliments of DVA. They even have a remote to dial yourself up and down. I normally give it to the missus so she can tune me in or out. Sometimes hearing loss can be a good thing.
Ear defenders have been mandatory for the past 30 yrs or so, but before that they were not issued and you had to wear a steel helmet on the range to amplify the noise to boot.
I recall the muzzle blast of the 20pdr on the Centurion which kind of caved your head in so you opened your mouth to equalize the pressure on the eardrums. They did issue those itty-bitty rubber earplugs for that. Small comfort.I am the proud owner of a set of hearing aids compliments of DVA. They even have a remote to dial yourself up and down. I normally give it to the missus so she can tune me in or out. Sometimes hearing loss can be a good thing.
Our instructions were to stand 100 yards back, hands cupping both ears and mouths open when the MWs were firing. Nobody cared about the pakkapakkapakkapakka from the Co-ax.
All fine and well until some dweeb forgets how to COUNT and the ammo party goes up to the Tanks on the firing-point and there you are, loading Inert w/Tracer and FUSED HE rounds (WITHOUT clips) into your Tank.... and the guy in the next machine, 10 feet away, mashes the Magic Button. BIG blast, berets off, eyebrows singed and the Sergeant comes running up to you and screams at you. You can see his mouth opening, so you nod a 'yes' (one NEVER says 'no' to a Sergeant, they being appointed by God Himself) and he keeps on screaming and you can hear someone, a very long way away, saying very quietly "Can you hear me?". Your head rings for a while and your hearing comes back over the next day or so but, a few years later, you find it impossible to listen to a conversation with any music going on, things like that. A few years after that, you find yourself watching people's mouths very carefully when they talk... and that can get them PO'd at you because nobody likes to be stared at!
Just one of those things.
But thanks for the info. Gets any worse and I just might use that.
All fine and well until some dweeb forgets how to COUNT and the ammo party goes up to the Tanks on the firing-point and there you are, loading Inert w/Tracer and FUSED HE rounds (WITHOUT clips) into your Tank.... and the guy in the next machine, 10 feet away, mashes the Magic Button. BIG blast, berets off, eyebrows singed and the Sergeant comes running up to you and screams at you. You can see his mouth opening, so you nod a 'yes' (one NEVER says 'no' to a Sergeant, they being appointed by God Himself) and he keeps on screaming and you can hear someone, a very long way away, saying very quietly "Can you hear me?". Your head rings for a while and your hearing comes back over the next day or so but, a few years later, you find it impossible to listen to a conversation with any music going on, things like that. A few years after that, you find yourself watching people's mouths very carefully when they talk... and that can get them PO'd at you because nobody likes to be stared at!
Just one of those things.
But thanks for the info. Gets any worse and I just might use that.
