Speer .358" LSWC col for .357 magnum

bscriver

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does anyone know what the COL for these would be (or do I just take past the top line and call it day?), apparently speer doesn't like to share info and its all the local shops carry.
 
Is there not a crimp groove on the top of the bullet?? Very common in the LSWC's to have it just above the lube grooves. Crimp to that groove and yur laughing
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