Sporting clay true pair

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Ok a little hypothetical question, about true pairs.
Your shooting a 25 yard, low flying true pair that is cutting across in front of you, from left to right. There is about 6 ft of space between the targets. Would you track the pair shooting the back target first then continue the swing to the lead bird? Or swing into them the opposite direction and shoot the first target first, then pick up the back target.
I have seen this shot both ways, just wondering if there is a right or wrong, or just whatever works for you.These are 6ft high so you really have to jump on the first bird to get the second one before it is on the ground Any info would be great thanks
 
If one target drops faster than the other, that would be the first one I would shoot. There is more than one way to skin a cat in sporting clays. It depends also if one of the targets ends up behind something. Shooting the one behind first may keep you swinging the gun but the 1st bird will drop also faster. Shooting the front bird 1st allows you to just wait for the second bird to move into the gun. Sometimes also if you shoot the front bird 1st and the second one breaks, it tells you that you were way behind on the front clay. Everybody is different. Whatever works for you to break the clay. If it doesn't work one way try the other one.
 
I shoot "move, mount, shoot" most often. Assuming the targets are more or less on the same line I would insert in front of the first target and shoot it first. The second target should be coming towards my barrels which are already in front of the target and moving on the same line so I would shoot it second.
 
Assuming they are both dropping at the same rate based on my experiences I prefer to have my gun out in front of my target so for me I would mount my gun with intentions of shooting the lead bird first then pick up the trailing bird and have at it but as stated before if the trailing bird were dropping faster I would hammer it first then get after the lead bird.
 
I usually would shoot the lead bird then shoot the next. but it really depends on how they look what lines there taking and how much they drop and at what rate there droping.
 
That second target would REALLY have to be dropping for me to shoot it first. Because the targets are coming out at the same level your eyes can't help but at least glance at the first target. So you'd see the first target, ignore it, shift your eyes to the second, shoot it and then go back to the first target which is already more than 6 feet ahead of the target you've just shot and it would be dropping too.

A shooter more accustomed to swing through shooting might shoot the second target first. I've had less success in come from behind shots than having the barrel start off in front of the target. YMMV.
 
Well here is a true pair scenario I set up on our 5 stand for a shoot yestetday. It was a true pair, the low house and a portable trap set about 10 feet behind the low house window. The skeet machine had a solenoid release and the portable machine has a slight delay, so when the targets are released the low house gets out about 10 yards before the portable is released. The catch is, the spring on the portable machine is set much faster, so by the time the low house bird gets to the center stake, the other target overtakes it. They are set on the same trajectory but different angles. So just as you esrablish lead on the first target, the second one passes it! We had 40 shooters go through the 5 stand and i think that pair was broken about 4 times!
 
gttsc said:
Well here is a true pair scenario I set up on our 5 stand for a shoot yestetday. It was a true pair, the low house and a portable trap set about 10 feet behind the low house window. The skeet machine had a solenoid release and the portable machine has a slight delay, so when the targets are released the low house gets out about 10 yards before the portable is released. The catch is, the spring on the portable machine is set much faster, so by the time the low house bird gets to the center stake, the other target overtakes it. They are set on the same trajectory but different angles. So just as you esrablish lead on the first target, the second one passes it! We had 40 shooters go through the 5 stand and i think that pair was broken about 4 times!
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You sir, are just as creative(sadistic) as the course guys are here during the summer!!!!
 
Like Claybuster I usually use the Move,Mount, Shoot method. In the case of the true pair set by gttsc I would shoot the first target that appears in my field of vision first. Granted the overtaking bird may cause some confusion but a good focus on the first bird should win. In going away or quartering away pairs I like killing the trailing clay first and then swinging through the second one. Crossers, I generally use Claybusters technique. The most important aspect to remember is to plan ahead. Decide which target must be shot first and stick to it. Just my
 
gttsc said:
Well here is a true pair scenario I set up on our 5 stand for a shoot yestetday. It was a true pair, the low house and a portable trap set about 10 feet behind the low house window. The skeet machine had a solenoid release and the portable machine has a slight delay, so when the targets are released the low house gets out about 10 yards before the portable is released. The catch is, the spring on the portable machine is set much faster, so by the time the low house bird gets to the center stake, the other target overtakes it. They are set on the same trajectory but different angles. So just as you esrablish lead on the first target, the second one passes it! We had 40 shooters go through the 5 stand and i think that pair was broken about 4 times!
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This sounds like a very interesting presenatition however it is not a true pair .any delay in the release between the 1st and the 2nd target will make it a following pair.NSCA rules state that for a true the targets must be released at the same time.
 
beretta boy said:
Correct !
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Technically it is a true pair, as both machines are triggered simultaneously. The only difference is the speed of the solenoid release versus the slightly slower release of a sporting machine. In any case, the real effect is created by setting the faster target behind the slower target, allowing the targets to overtake each other.
 
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