Springfield Rifle in 303

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I got a call today from a friend about a 303 Springfield rifle. I have heard about them but only a few lines of information was all I found.

How many were made, and are they collectable?

Woodchopper I can change this to the Milsurp Forum if you like?
 
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The only thing I could think of is that it's a P14 in .303, but AFAIK these were only manufactured by Winchester, Remington and Eddystone. About 1.2 million P14 rifles were made.
 
Remington at the start of WW2 had a contract to produce 1903 rifles for the US Army. They experimented with a few conversions of the Springfield 1903 to .303 Brit. in hopes of getting British contracts, years ago the small Museum at CFB Long Pointe in Montreal, QC had one of those experimental rifles on display.
 
JP is correct, the BPC (British Purchasing Commission) wanted Remington to make No4 rifles for them, much like Savage, but Remington said they could not develop the tooling in time, and offered the 1903A1 Springfield instead.

A letter of intent to buy 500,000 rifles with an option for a further 500,000 for $5 a rifle was signed on 12 December 1940.

The introduction of Lend Lease and increased production in the UK and elsewhere reduced the British need for these rifles, and America's entry into the war killed it off because the US superceded the British contract because they needed Springfields for their own use.

The .303 Springfields never went beyond the prototype stage, but several do still exist. The rifle had several unique features. The butstock was shaped like the Lee Enfield's with the "hook" at the grip area, rather than the straight grip on the US stock. It also had receiver mounted rear sights similar to the Pattern 14/17, and the wood at the muzzle was cut back and the barrel contoured to take the No4 front sight and bayonet.
 
I hate to be a naysayer, but is it possible he's just getting Springfield and Enfield confused? I get that sometimes at work.
 
A M1903 rifle in .30-03 is very rare.
An 03A3 variant in .303 is even more so.
Chances of either popping up are very limited.
Better get more information about the rifle.
 
The description he gave me fits the line drawings of the 303 model. It even takes the No4 socket bayonet.
I will look at it in a day or so and take some pictures.
 
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These Remington prototype .303 Model 1903s are described in both Brophy's and Campbell's definitive books on the M1903 rifle. No description of how many were made, but one of these rare rifles would be worth a tidy sum indeed. No rushes of blood to the head to sporterize it now.;)
 
.303 Springfields

The Bannerman Company of New York made up some .303 rifles using surplus Springfield parts. These would also be quite rare.

However, it is hard to say just what it is if there are no pictures.
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I'm refering to the cartridge that preceeded the .30-06, I am aware of the existance of .303 Springfields.

I think it is more likely that some one is mistaking .30-03 for .303 .

I would expect that any 30-03 rifles would have been upgraded/FTR'd at some point and would be even more rare that the .303 Springfields.
 
The description he gave me fits the line drawings of the 303 model. It even takes the No4 socket bayonet.
I will look at it in a day or so and take some pictures.

A good photo set would be great, if the rifle is what you hope it to be...maybe for Milsurps.com?

Maybe the only pics there are anywhere?
 
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