As far as a hunting rig goes I had a 6.5 Creed I put a 3.6-18x44 Leupold in a Spuhr mount on. It wasn't cheap but I got the reticle and features I wanted. Not much heavier than most LPVO with mount and it's more capable. I had another in .308 with a Razor HDII 1-6 and while I appreciate that optic for what it is my typical shots benefit from more scope. Too bad all my STAGS went away before the ban.