Sten gun find

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zelly

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Went to someone's house tonight to buy something from a used site and he had this soon to be gem (needs some tlc. It's rust free except the mag needs a little touch up. It is missing most of the internals (bolt ect)
The story is the guys dad bought like "600" back in the day that were all cut up like this from the military,
Anywho any ideas on value? I paid 100 which I thought was fair. It's a piece of history and a nice wall hanger

Also any tips for cleaning it up? Do's and don'ts. I was thinking about job weld to clean up the weld cuts. It's pretty rust free except the mag. It needs a little tlc. Any comments welcome
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$100 is really pretty good.

For some reason or other there seemed to have been a ton of the demilled ones here in B.C., pretty much all Mk II's like yours, and all stamped 'Long Branch', I think. In the 80s I went to one fellow's house and he had a wall full of them, and the method of mutilation seemed to vary a fair bit in the details, though all hit roughly the same main points to varying degrees.

There are/ were parts kits from the US available with some of the bits you're missing for reasonable prices, though not sure if you'd have any hurdles being a Canadian buyer.
 
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badboybeeson said:
that is still classed as a prohibited as per our laws, due to the mag well housing
so I hope you have 12-2
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Just to be clear I thought this was deactived already! Here's a pic of the mag well. I have no intention, I repeat no intention of making it fire again but want a legal dewat
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badboybeeson said:
that is still classed as a prohibited as per our laws, due to the mag well housing
so I hope you have 12-2
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Usually cut, and/or otherwise mutilated on all the ones I've ever seen, though I guess there's nothing to stop Ottawa changing and changing the definition of 'mutilation' if they want. I don't see it as enforceable, though, as there's many thousands of dewat Stens, Brens and other things out there legally sold off and traded since the end of WWII.
 
zelly said:
Just to be clear I thought this was deactived already! Here's a pic of the mag well. I have no intention, I repeat no intention of making it fire again but want a legal dewat
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Well, according to the RCMP - nothing to worry about. They revised the dewat standards in 2006, but:

"The new standards will not affect the status of firearms that have already been deemed to be deactivated unless there is evidence that the firearm has been, or could easily be, reactivated."

Text of full RCMP notice here:

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/club/bulletin12-eng.htm

Yours is about as deactivated as it gets :) It might fall off the table and injure a passing cat, but...imo...that's about it.
 
So Is mine considered deactivated? Would jb welding the cuts (trying to clean it up for display) and painting the gun again be considered trying to make it active again?
 
the guys dad bought like "600" back in the day that were all cut up like this from the military,

Crown Surplus had a pile about the size of a cord of wood when I was a teen. 9.95 each Wicked torch work. Clean it up, flat black stove paint looks realistic.

Grizz
 
The breach face is totally demented and could not even except a round and the barrel has a hole. But I do want to jb weld the cut marks and paint it again. Just the message from the dealer regarding it bein a 12.2 is unsettling
 
The magwell looks cut, but who knows what a deactivated magwell looks like. The Sten is weird because the machinegun is a non-firearm, and the magwell is a machine gun. Anything is possible there.
 
Well I am going to job weld the cut marks and the breach can't even accept a round but I will jb weld it closed and job weld the end of the barrel and call it a day. Then paint the whole thing again with some kryon metal paint.
 
Juster said:
The magwell looks cut, but who knows what a deactivated magwell looks like. The Sten is weird because the machinegun is a non-firearm, and the magwell is a machine gun. Anything is possible there.
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you could by definition build the entire thing without a magwell and it would be in a grey area
 
badboybeeson said:
that is still classed as a prohibited as per our laws, due to the mag well housing
so I hope you have 12-2
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The most recent mention I have seen about this (Bill Etter-SFSS) is that the receiver is the housing and tube combination. RCMP approved dewats incorporate a functional mag. housing. I wouldn't worry about this specimen.
 
zelly said:
The breach face is totally demented and could not even except a round and the barrel has a hole. But I do want to jb weld the cut marks and paint it again. Just the message from the dealer regarding it bein a 12.2 is unsettling
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Be easier to build one from scratch, than reactivate one of those. :)

Grizz
 
Cool find. I'm in barns more often than anyone I know personally...and the coolest thing I've found doesn't hold a candle to that.
 
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