Steyr M95 questions

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I have questions concerning the steyr M95 rifle, in regards to its service use. I was just wondering by which armies it was used, besides that of the Austro Hungarians. Also, when and why was it chambered to 8x56R. Was it fielded in WW2? Were they ever chambered for different rounds? How rare are differently or origanally chambered M95's. How did it compare to other service rifles of the pre-45 era? Personally, I think it is a great rifle. I love the nifty feeding system. It is very fast, and it chambers every time too. I can definately see how this system of loading could be advantageous, except the fact that you need a clip, and cannot load 5 rounds seperately.

Also, do carcano clips also fall out the bottom like with the steyr and can you also launch it out the top?

thanks in advance!
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I'm not sure about it's field use in WWII but I've seen Nazi marked ammunition.

ANd yes, the carcano clips fall out the bottom upon chambering the last round. Sometimes they stick a bit and need another clip to be inserted to push it through the bottom port.

Oh, and no, they don't fly out the top, thats the Garand's trademark ;)
 
Oh, and no, they don't fly out the top, thats the Garand's trademark

well, the m95 has a release switch forward of the trigger, that, when pressed, ejects the un-empty clip out of the top. it is sort of the same concept.
 
The Bulgarians, Hungarians and Austrians all employed the M95s, and all made thier own ammo. The 8x56R was first adopted in by the Austrians in 1930, they did the design and development work on it, and you can find alot about it in Moetz's book on Austrian Ammunition. The Hungarians adopted it in 1931. As a result you will sometimes see it reffered to as the M30S or M31S. The rebarrelling began pretty much at the time of adoption. The old 8X50R was getting a little long in the tooth, and it was simply a chance to step up performance a bit. As the war progressed and battles were won and lost the M95s spread a bit, and some other countries used them as second line guns.
The Germans, after the Anchluss had control of Austrias M95s. They opted to keep them as second line weapons, issuing them to Police etc. This saved them from having to use 8X56Rs next to 8X57s in service. Ultimately the M95s remained secondline firearms pretty much accross the board. The Carcanos have similar features to the M95s simply because they are all Mannlicher designs, he was a fan of clip/charger loading, and used it in a wide range of his designs.
 
f_soldaten04 said:
well, the m95 has a release switch forward of the trigger, that, when pressed, ejects the un-empty clip out of the top. it is sort of the same concept.


I see what you mean. I thought you were asking if it'd fly out when you fire the last round, a la Garand. My Carcano has a similar release button.
 
FWIW, the Serbians had oodles of M95's after WW1, and got more from the Finns when they traded them their stores of captured WW1 M91's.

Just prior to WW2, they had converted about half their stocks to 8x57JS Mauser. Those arms eventually fell into German hands and were re-issued to the Wehrmacht, along with LOTS of Yugo M1924 Mausers.
 
Steyr also sold 1616 M95s to Siam in 1901. M95 was also used by Italy after receiving them as WWI reparations.
 
M95 Steyr

Didn't the Steyr use a rimmed round like the Lee-Enfield 303. The Carcano was rimless and held 6 rounds in a square or block. The Steyr clip held 5 with a very sharp angle and is a bit wider. I don't think the two are compatable.
I just got a stripper clip for an M95 Carbine I received on a trade at a previous gun show.
 
what sort of cleaning instruments were issued with these rifles? i just noticed that there is no provision for a rod of any sort, or even storage in the butt.
 
The Carbine length guns had a steel rod, with a free spinning T handle. There is a notch in rod for patches etc. Also others were provided with small cleaning kits, with cord drawn brushes etc.
 
Greece and Roumania also got a bunch of them as war reparations and so did a few other countries. A lot of them were converted to 8x57 and had the mag wells altered to make the use of clips unnecessary. bearhunter
 
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