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Hey everyone. Proud new owner of an Edge. It was modified to have a heavier than stock trigger pull by the previous owner, and I am used to the light pull of a CZ IPSC Standard, I want to lighten it up. It has a SV trigger and hammer, but a 3 finger spring. I need some 4 finger springs, a new lighter spur hammer or something, and a drill and tap mag release extension. Maybe a tungsten guide rod and a recoil buffer rig as well. Does anyone know where the best place to get these parts is?

Thanks!
 
I have question for you. Why do you need to change the hammer to get a a lighter trigger pull? Why do you want to change the sear spring from 3 leaf to a 4 leaf ? The 3 leaf is a much better spring.

Sound to me you need to tune the sear, hammer legs, and the sear spring to get what you want. You might want to check the travel of the trigger bow in the grip to make sure there is nothing holding it up. Why spend the money if you do not have to. SVI and STI parts are good parts.

As for the rest of what you want you can get that from Freedom Ventures.
Sean Is a great guy to deal with , very helpful and knowledgeable and he is a major board sponsor.
 
The fellow working on it for me says the four spring is easier to adjust Makes sense to me, but I am no expert. The trigger is very heavy compared to most. The previous owner said he was uncomfortable with light triggers so he intentionally made it heavy and specifically told me to lighten it I would need a new hammer and likely a spring. My trigger man tried adjusting it down today and got doubles while still heavy. I am used to maybe 1 3/4 pounds so I want it light. This one will not do it wirthout changes to the hammer and probably spring. The trigger is good but needs to be adjusted for take up. There is also quite a bit of rough binding on the slide at the rear, but that is likley due to the fact that the gun is hardly broken in. Regardless, I want to find a way to get it nice and smooth. If I pull it back slowly I can get it to stick open occasionally. That is not smooth at all.
 
I do not know who is working on you gun and I am in no way saying any thing bad about them , but it sounds like you need to tune the sear spring.

I had the same problem with my open gun. I had a 4 leaf sear spring in it , hammer strut kept rubbing on the spring not allowing the hammer to reset and doubling. Changed to to a 3 leaf spring and tuned it runs flawlessly at 1.75lbs
ever sense.

your money just tring to help
 
Riflman said:
There is also quite a bit of rough binding on the slide at the rear, but that is likley due to the fact that the gun is hardly broken in. Regardless, I want to find a way to get it nice and smooth. If I pull it back slowly I can get it to stick open occasionally. That is not smooth at all.
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I'm surprised that would happen on a factory Edge...

Take out the barrel and guide rod...and just run the slide along the frame to make sure it is actually binding. Sometimes that can be caused by the barrel link binding a bit...

If it is actually binding ...there is a way to smooth it up with no risk of screwing it up. It may sound funny...but I had the same problem on a custom built SVI...and this is how i fixed it. (worked like a frikken charm)

Strip off all the oil...and then give it a generous lubing with...toothpaste. Don't use a clear type...use a regular blue paste like Crest...it has just enough abrasive in it to polish out the rough spots...rack it about 100 times...see how it is...repeat if neccessary...

Polishing compounds will also work...but they are much more abrasive and if you're not careful you can over do it...

Once your happy with it...just scrub off the tooth paste...which will be pretty dried out at this point...oil it up and it should be very smoothe...

Note...this will only work if the gun is Stainless or Blued...if it's been chromed the surface will be too hard in which case I would send it to a gunsmith...

Cheers
 
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Riflman said:
The fellow working on it for me says the four spring is easier to adjust Makes sense to me, but I am no expert. The trigger is very heavy compared to most. The previous owner said he was uncomfortable with light triggers so he intentionally made it heavy and specifically told me to lighten it I would need a new hammer and likely a spring. My trigger man tried adjusting it down today and got doubles while still heavy. I am used to maybe 1 3/4 pounds so I want it light. This one will not do it wirthout changes to the hammer and probably spring. The trigger is good but needs to be adjusted for take up. There is also quite a bit of rough binding on the slide at the rear, but that is likley due to the fact that the gun is hardly broken in. Regardless, I want to find a way to get it nice and smooth. If I pull it back slowly I can get it to stick open occasionally. That is not smooth at all.
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Sounds to me like you have decent parts, but just need the sear re cut and the spring tuned. Done properly, the STI stock parts will easily go down to 1.5 pounds or less without any danger of following, and it will last. I've done all kinds of sub-1.5 lb triggers on these guns with the stock parts with no problems at all. And trust me; you DON'T want a four leaf spring. They can and do break off inside the gun from time to time. The four leaf spring is just a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
 
MOBILE 1 said:
I do not know who is working on you gun and I am in no way saying any thing bad about them , but it sounds like you need to tune the sear spring.

I had the same problem with my open gun. I had a 4 leaf sear spring in it , hammer strut kept rubbing on the spring not allowing the hammer to reset and doubling. Changed to to a 3 leaf spring and tuned it runs flawlessly at 1.75lbs
ever sense.

your money just tring to help
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No disrespect meant. I am open to all advice. :) I'm just trying to say that I really don't know enough to judge, but his explanation seemed to make sense to me based on my limited knowledge of rifle triggers only. The spring system in there looks foreign to me as I am not familiar with handgun innards. ;)
 
Quigley said:
Note...this will only work if the gun is Stainless or Blued...if it's been chromed the surface will be too hard in which case I would send it to a gunsmith...

Cheers
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Yup. This is a Hard Chrome Edge...
 
Freedom Ventures said:
Give me a call, and I'll help however I can.

I do have some Clark 4 finger sear springs in stock if you really need one.
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Clark is what he told me to get. He said buy three of them so I have spares. He also said to get a spur hammer. The SV hammer on it now is pretty beefy compared to the ones I have seen on Edges with triggers I like. Can you recommend a hammer with fast lock time and that will give me a light trigger pull? Maybe a titanium one?

I'll give you a call.

Thanks!
 
relliott said:
Sounds to me like you have decent parts, but just need the sear re cut and the spring tuned. Done properly, the STI stock parts will easily go down to 1.5 pounds or less without any danger of following, and it will last. I've done all kinds of sub-1.5 lb triggers on these guns with the stock parts with no problems at all. And trust me; you DON'T want a four leaf spring. They can and do break off inside the gun from time to time. The four leaf spring is just a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
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Now you have me wondering... The fact is that the gun has been modded quite a bit already with SV parts, lock open disabled, Optic (??) .38 Super extractor) etc. Maybe that is the issue. With the SV hammer, the original owner told me it's not possible to have a light pull. He didn't send me the original hammer so I don't know.
 
Riflman said:
Now you have me wondering... The fact is that the gun has been modded quite a bit already with SV parts, lock open disabled, Optic (??) .38 Super extractor) etc. Maybe that is the issue. With the SV hammer, the original owner told me it's not possible to have a light pull. He didn't send me the original hammer so I don't know.
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SV hammers don't give light pulls? They can give pulls of less than one pound! They are very precisely machined, competition parts built for racing. It sounds like you are getting some rather strange advice. I haven't seen the gun, so there could indeed be something going on there, but from what you have described it doesn't sound like it would take much more than a couple of hours to make the thing run the way you want it to.
 
relliott said:
SV hammers don't give light pulls? They can give pulls of less than one pound! They are very precisely machined, competition parts built for racing. It sounds like you are getting some rather strange advice. I haven't seen the gun, so there could indeed be something going on there, but from what you have described it doesn't sound like it would take much more than a couple of hours to make the thing run the way you want it to.
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I bought it from a guy on this list. The guy working on my trigger agrees with you. I'm just telling you what the fellow who owned it told me. I am just going through the emails and PMs from the PO. The hammer and sear were replaced/modified to increase the trigger pull. He said to lighten it, I would have to replace the hammer and sear. Nothing about the spring. I just thing it is my gunsmith's prefence. He also shoots several tricked out Edges so he knows something about them. I could send it off but he is here and willing to help me gratis so that is important. I trust him also.

It's a .40 HC Edge. I'll try and get a picture up.
 
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Riflman said:
I bought it from a guy on this list. The guy working on my trigger agrees with you. I'm just telling you what the fellow who owned it told me. I am just going through the emails and PMs from the PO. The hammer and sear were replaced/modified to increase the trigger pull. He said to lighten it, I would have to replace the hammer and sear. Nothing about the spring. I just thing it is my gunsmith's prefence. He also shoots several tricked out Edges so he knows something about them. I could send it off but he is here and willing to help me gratis so that is important. I trust him also.
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Well it doesn't sound like you are too far off from a very shootable gun then. Best of luck!
 
Trigger Job on edge

I don't know your location so I can't recommend where to take it, but from the information in your posts this is very important.... DO NOT ATTEMPT TO HAVE TRIGGER WORK DONE ON YOUR GUN UNLESS THE PERSON DOING THE WORK KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING!

It already sounds as if you have recieved some confusing and incorrect advice so if I were you I would take or send it to a qualified pistolsmith only and get it set up properly.

It takes quite a bit of experienece to be able to understand the complexities of the 1911 trigger design. If the guy working on your gun doesn't have at least a sear jig, a sear/hammer test fixture and a hammer jig then take it back and send it to someone else.

Mike
 
I have never heard of anyone replacing hammer and sear to increase the trigger pull weight. It certainly doesn't sound like the previous owner and/or his gunsmith know much about working on race guns.

FWIW Ipsik does one of the best trigger job around. Send your gun and parts to him and he'll set you right.
 
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