Still undecided , LR plinker/taget scope, would love to have some input.

Kelly Timoffee

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Ok here is the deal.

Need a scope for LR playing.I am hoping to find some place where i can exceed the 1760 yard mark.

Right now I am looking at the SIII line , however , I will go higher end if that equipment get's me interested.

What are the LR game players using and what specs.

I assume that the next step would be Night Force then maybe the TOP tier brands( S & B and such)

Is there going to be an advantage to going higher end aside from glass quality?

I am really thinking that the 10-50 SIII's may be the way to go, I do prefer high magnification for all applications, you can always turn them down.

Is there others that I am missing or are they more geared towards law enforcement or field use?
 
The siii will be the best bang for buck option. Stepping up to NF and that area will give you a much more robust scope and better glass , then stepping up again to S&Bs, march once again will give you FAR. Superior glass . Those guys who say things like NF glass is just as good as SB 1) have never compared to 2 at long range , 2) have "bad" eye sight . Stepping up to the high end stuff will allow higher magnifications to be used while keeping most of the optical clarity , as magnification goes up, resolution goes down . That being said good glass makes up for magnification 10x over . My SB 12-50 hardly ever goes past 25x as there is just no need. Iv used it to look at stuff well over 2k yards and it does just fine
 
So you don't figure there is much need to go past 25X anyways?That will open up options for sure.

ultimate_monkey said:
The siii will be the best bang for buck option. Stepping up to NF and that area will give you a much more robust scope and better glass , then stepping up again to S&Bs, march once again will give you FAR. Superior glass . Those guys who say things like NF glass is just as good as SB 1) have never compared to 2 at long range , 2) have "bad" eye sight . Stepping up to the high end stuff will allow higher magnifications to be used while keeping most of the optical clarity , as magnification goes up, resolution goes down . That being said good glass makes up for magnification 10x over . My SB 12-50 hardly ever goes past 25x as there is just no need. Iv used it to look at stuff well over 2k yards and it does just fine
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With top end (nf or better) glass no there really isn't . If your shooting lower end glass you will have a much harder time . The picture will be less crisp making the target harder to see, so instinct says turn the mag up, which just makes it fuzzier
 
I have been looking at the NF NXS 8-32 x 56 with the MOAR reticle, looks very appealing to me for my application.

So is a NF worth 2X the money of an SIII with similar specs?

I only ask because I am unable to compare the two side by each so would like as many opinions as possible.
 
Is is worth 2x as much? Hard to say the NF is much more robust and durable then the same spec sightron which if your carrying threw the bush could make it worth 2x as much as a broken sightron isn't worth much!

The quality of glass to cost how ever isn't linear , you won't get twice the crispness in the NF for the 2x price tag IMO I'd say 1.5ish times better but my sightron experience is limited to looking threw one scope .
 
Like ultimate_monkey, my sightron experience is limited to looking through a single scope. I may give them a try for my next rifle, but I've got time to decide on that.
I own an NXS 3.5-15, which I bought for going out to 1000 yards. Have you looked at the Nightforce BR scopes at all? They're down in the $1400 range, but do have a narrower adjustment range than the NXS
 
I know they are there but didn't look too close at them, maybe that isn't a bad idea either , then I could put the difference towards other upgrades.

Dustin said:
Like ultimate_monkey, my sightron experience is limited to looking through a single scope. I own an NXS 3.5-15, which I bought for going out to 1000 yards. Have you looked at the Nightforce BR scopes at all? They're down in the $1400 range
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I don't have any concerns on the ability of the Sightron , I however would lean towards the NF in the durability department, the rifle may see the odd LR hunt which wouldn't be tromping through the bush anyways.

Never even considered the Mark 4 since I wasn't a big fan of the big "L" brand but I suppose I shouldn't disregard them.

Dustin said:
my next rifle will wear an SIII, Mark 4, or Nightforce BR. Given my current ownership of an NXS, I lean toward the NF.
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^^^ depends on how good your eyes are, I notice a night and day difference between my buddies NFs side by side to my S&Bs , while others on this bored will claim they see no difference
 
My mark 4 had to go to Korth to get the turrets worked on. They just did not track reliably. It was a 25 power - my 3.5-18 Swarovski was much more clear and appeared to have almost the same magnification.
I would stay with your gut feeling about the "L"brand
I had a sIII 8-32 and it was pretty good for the money. Always tracked properly but target colors looked a bit off. They have a kinda goofy setup for zeroing the turrets as well. Sometimes you would move a click or two when tightening back down the turret - but you don't need to deal with that standard option much.
I now use a 22and 32 power night force. They are both great with no problems. I do notice a difference with the higher power scope when shooting further out.
I would go with a nxs, they are better than the sightrons IMHO and you'll always be wondering how much so when you're using your sightron
Never been around anything pricier to compare with though.
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
Yes I do, I have a 40 MOA base that should arrive this month...........................hopefully.
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I don't know what your intended zero is, but you'll never be able to zero it at 1-200 meters. A 20 moa base is more suitable to the vertical adj. that scope has.
Just making sure that you understand that 40 moa base and 50 moa internal does not add up to 90 moa up. Unless you intend to have a crazy long zero like 800 meters, and use reticle based holds.
 
Hence my reticle choice.

I may also get the offset inserts when I get my Burris rings, not sure if I will need them or not.

From some quick Ukrainian math and the Sierra software , with a modest muzzle velocity and the bullets I will be using, the calculations show that I will have about 63 MOA drop @ 1700 yards and that is with a 200 yard zero.



marcoman said:
I don't know what your intended zero is, but you'll never be able to zero it at 1-200 meters. A 20 moa base is more suitable to the vertical adj. that scope has.
Just making sure that you understand that 40 moa base and 50 moa internal does not add up to 90 moa up. Unless you intend to have a crazy long zero like 800 meters, and use reticle based holds.
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