Stock refinishing - how many times can a stock be refinished?

JMDelipper

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Hey guys,

I am wondering if there is any issue with refinishing wood stocks multiple times. I understand that you should not sand a stock down too much, but are there any issues with stripping the same stock down and refinishing it a few times? Does this in anyway degrade the wood? Will removing stain become more difficult the next time around?

Any insight would help!

Thanks, Jon
 
Almost certainly some stain, if any is used, will be left. It's tough to wash that stuff out with any paint and varnish remover.

But most of the better wood for gunstocks is not stained. It's that colour naturally. And in fact staining many of the woods used is pretty much like putting mud on it and hides the grain. The only time you want to use a stain is if the wood is something cheap and lacking in grain contrast. In such cases stain can help the appearance by increasing the contrast between the soft and harder parts of the wood. To do this without looking muddy and hiding more than it helps you need to put it on then rub away most of it. And that means it's well into the wood and you can't get in there to remove all of it.

If you don't need to use a stain and just a varnish or oil finish brings out a nice colour then you can strip and re-do it as many times as you like. Some light sanding will likely be needed but if you do go lightly it won't remove any significant amount of wood if it's just a light sanding to remove the last bits of varnish.

If you're asking because you want to try different stain colours then that's different. Over time the residual from the first few will affect the total as you get into the third and fourth and more attempts. You're better off to work with the stain colours, if you have to use stain at all, in one go. If you start with a lighter stain than you think you want and it's too light you can wash much of it away with low odor paint thinner right away. Then mix in some darker brown or darker red and brown to modify the too light stain and apply then wipe off again. If it's still too light add a little more of the darkening stains to the mixture and try again.

You'll find that the paint thinner doesn't wash away all of it. And going from something too dark to a lighter look gets hard in a hurry. So it's better to start light and work up.... unless you want a higher contrast to the softer and more porous wood that is.

In any case don't use the stain as a paint. Use it as a stain. And that means lots of paper towels or rags that you can discard rubbed vigorously to remove as much as you can. And the rubbing off of most of the stain typically means that you want to start out darker than you think you want. If after rubbing the excess off firmly if it's still too dark you can wash some of it off with a rag lightly dampened with the thinner.

With all this thinner and oil based stain do be sure to wear solvent resistant gloves. That stuff isn't good for your skin or internal organs.
 
Another trick if you want to build some colour in really bland wood.

Start with a lighter sort of stain to build a base colour. Apply, let soak well then firmly rub it all off leaving just the slight darkening. Let dry for a few days. Then apply a darker stain over the first and again rub away most of it to the point where it's a little too light again. Allow to dry fully for a few days. Finally use one more coat of the dark stain or a third even darker one again to build in the contrast. And again rub away all of it that is on the surface.

After all this dries for a week or more you should be good to use a varnish on it or something like Tru-Oil. Or you can start hand rubbing on a few drops of boiled linseed oil. Just don't flood the surface with a finish oil. It'll act like a solvent and lift some of the stain out of the wood. Instead you want to rub just a little oil into the wood. Only just enough that it gives it a slightly wet look and the colours brighten up.
 
back when I used to refinish my own stocks I would do it over and over until it came out correctly....believe me,..they can be refinished many times..:)

I prefer a rather slim profile anyway....:)
 
Sanding multiple times will be harder on any stock than just refinishing. Sanding is something you'd want to avoid in the first place.
Oils like tung oil soak into the wood to about 1/4" and keep anything else out, including all stain and any other kind of oil. So a lot depends on what is on the wood already.
Wood strippers tend to be caustic and don't remove just the finish. Most of 'em remove paint, varnish and stains, but not always acrylic finishes. So you need the right stripper too.
Generally, wood is wood and you use the same products and techniques used on fine furniture. Fine furniture gets refinished more than once.
 
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