i recently took part in my first sk. cwd hunt. they opened zone 29 in which i have hunted since i was 12 i'm now 40. have shot many deer here and seen lots of mule deer. they last few yrs i have applied for anterless mule deer tags and have always been successful.so i again i fill my 2 doe tags and earn a buck tag. Me and 3 buddies hunted hard for 12 days and never seen 1 respectable mule deer buck. there were more hunters than i had ever seen and heard shooting around my yard every day.then decided to try to find some deer on my land. everything had been driven 10 or more times and of course nobody had asked permission there were a few deer left to rut gut piles here and there and a fair bit of garbage.so ask your sk mp to stop this wasteful hunt and save our resouce and hire more conservation officers.i also have a Stop Saskatchewan's CWD Hunt on facebook if you are interested please join.
Stop Saskatchewan's CWD Hunt
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How many deer you saw may have nothing to do with the actual numbers. Mule deer are thick as gophers where I live. They are packed up in herds of 20-50 by now. Post your land hunting with written permission only and then take plate # of every violator. Don't ever think that more fish cops will help anything. This is liberal blasphemy at it's finest. Having average joe hunting with permission is a lot better than fish cops shooting them from a helicopter.
The rcmp will investigate illegal hunting complaints and if you have plate # they will act. Prepare to go to court, it happened to us. We farm 68 quarters and post it permission only. Takes a day to put up signs but then we know a strange truck or whatever. Saves fences and less ruts in the fields and on trails. I have never had a problem with any hunter who has asked permission, but lots of trouble with others. As the saying goes,'don't throw out the baby with the bathwater' Mark
The rcmp will investigate illegal hunting complaints and if you have plate # they will act. Prepare to go to court, it happened to us. We farm 68 quarters and post it permission only. Takes a day to put up signs but then we know a strange truck or whatever. Saves fences and less ruts in the fields and on trails. I have never had a problem with any hunter who has asked permission, but lots of trouble with others. As the saying goes,'don't throw out the baby with the bathwater' Mark
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How would you suggest we deal with CWD then?
From the information that I've read, its partially linked to over population.
From the information that I've read, its partially linked to over population.
also the carcasses of any deer must be incinerated cause it can be spread through the carcass.and cwd can last in the soil for 3 years.Cwd was first found in 1960 so it has been around for almost 50 years and the populations keep rising.i agree with 358 about people hunting with permission. i wouldn't have a problem with anyone that asked. but around here i've never had 1 person ask in my 40 years
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CWD is much more persistent than that, I'm afraid. Current research suggests it may remain in the soil for as much as 16 years. And, once there, it can bind to certain soil particles that increases its infectivity by a factor of hundreds of times.
Stop farming of our natural wild game animals.
There was no cwd before we had game farms with elk and whitetail deer. As long as these animals are farmed there is no chance of beating cwd
Kimzter
wanted to add this though, There are lots more deer around then when i was younger. When I first hunted it was unusual to see more than a few deer a day and my father told stories of hunting for days when he was younger without seeing any deer at all. This year i saw 18 deer on the way to my stand in the morning.
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CWD is a prion, a type of protein, like Mad Cow:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prion
Mad Cow, CWD, CJD Archive
http://rense.com/health/CJD-CWD-BSE.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prion
Mad Cow, CWD, CJD Archive
http://rense.com/health/CJD-CWD-BSE.htm
That is the one issue I have with hunters on my home quarter. I don't need my dog rolling around in a gut pile, or the coyotes the gut piles draw in. If hunters would only bother to ask...
Next year, I'm going to post my cell phone number. If that doesn't work, up go the gates.
That seems to be the problem out here in AB as well, no one wants to ask permission. I don't own land, but I call and ask permission for the properties I hunt every year. And, this week I brought a bottle of rum to all the guys who's land I hunted too. All of them seemed a bit shocked, they certainly weren't used to that. I grew up in Ontario and remember what it's like to have almost no land to hunt on and what I did have was constantly being pushed by big groups. I appreciatte the guys who let me on their land, and make sure they know it. This year almost all of them told me of their concern with the truck hunters driving around on their land and spreading clubroot, and where quite upset about it.
I also read somewhere that some bioligists think that CWD maybe a cyclical disease like Anthrax. It's been around for 50 years but nobody started paying attention to it until the last 10 years. The areas that are getting culled may not recover for decades and you will never eradicate this disease. It's a tough situation I'd hate to see it hit my neck of the woods.
I attended a forum in Ottawa in October that discussed CWD. One researcher at the University of Regina suggested that despite the expenditure of close to $1 billion across North America, the proportion of deer infected with CWD in Saskatchewan is still increasing. He concluded that it perhaps time to treat CWD as an environmental contaminant rather than a communicable disease.
I actually think that the increased hunting pressure in the CWD zones disperses deer out into other areas. If the only way to eradicate the duisease is to depopulate an area letting the half ton heroes loose for a month in November won't do it. Steady hunting year around would definately do more to accomplish that not that I would ever condone it. Closing the season on yotes for five years and letting nature take its course would probably do more than the zone slaughters we are seeing. The disease was brought in from farmed U'S elk according to my vet-the genie is definately out of the bottle. I'm not sure if I discovered a sick deer if I'd turn in the head.
That is one of the thoughts but you'll get as many theories as there are groups that have interests in wild and captive ungulates in the province. Unfortunately, there is no definitive proof how it originated, only where it was first discovered. Those against game farming blame the origins on game farming and those involved in game farming say it's always existed in the wild. One of those chicken and egg things........
CWD was actually first discovered in wild deer near Laramie Wy. Many elk farms in SK and AB. got seed stock from this area as well. Many yr. ago I worked with Sk Ag. on an eradication program. I personally believe cwd spread more rapidly in the wild after the bambi crowd and local wildlife groups started to feed mule deer herds using snowmobiles and helicopters also in the Colo/Wyo border area,south of Laramie. Deer and elk were literally eating the same stalk of feed and were nose to nose for most of the winter.Deer and elk should have never been farmed. Both of these situations result in an 'overpopulation' scenario.
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Doesn't bother me any I can kill big deer without a bait-it would pretty much shut down outfitting though. Colorado State University had been doing a CWD study then sold the test animals-I'm pretty sure that's where it came from. That's neither here nor there I don't think the hit and miss sl;aughter method going to control it. I wish the government would of let us kill off our old cows when BSE hit -that would of saved us alot of money and markets.
Baiting
Baiting is a whole different deal. If the rules are followed baiting is not as much a risk as it would seem. Very few deer are at a bait station. Outfitters usually chase off the scruffs. Stations are to be cleaned up when not in use. Also, cwd appears to be worse in S and SW SK. where baiting is not used. Only residents can hunt south of Hiway16. That said, I disagree with bait for deer. However to each their own.
CWD on the other hand,I believe is an overpopulation, limited predator problem. When you can see 150 mule deer in an hr. from the hiway there is a problem. This is the case east of Diefenbaker Lk., north of Swift Current and where I live, SE of Moose Jaw. Our group shot 23 mule deer this fall. There were 8 of us. Could have got 200. We sent all of the heads. Nothing so far.
On another note, deer will be having a time of it these last few days, snow, wind and minus 33 in the morning. It's -29 now, Mark
Baiting is a whole different deal. If the rules are followed baiting is not as much a risk as it would seem. Very few deer are at a bait station. Outfitters usually chase off the scruffs. Stations are to be cleaned up when not in use. Also, cwd appears to be worse in S and SW SK. where baiting is not used. Only residents can hunt south of Hiway16. That said, I disagree with bait for deer. However to each their own.
CWD on the other hand,I believe is an overpopulation, limited predator problem. When you can see 150 mule deer in an hr. from the hiway there is a problem. This is the case east of Diefenbaker Lk., north of Swift Current and where I live, SE of Moose Jaw. Our group shot 23 mule deer this fall. There were 8 of us. Could have got 200. We sent all of the heads. Nothing so far.
On another note, deer will be having a time of it these last few days, snow, wind and minus 33 in the morning. It's -29 now, Mark
Hunting with permission
As well as posting the land "HUNTING WITH PERMISSION" please put your phone # on the sign as well.
Just so those of us who would like permission can call you and set up a time to visit after we get directions...lots of people do not live on their land or farm anymore...
Post it Permission only and PLEASE include your phone #...
Please send me a pm with your info and location and when I get an opportunity to hunt near you I will call you and anyone else who has issues...heck I'll come and put up the signs with and/or for you...
Merry Christmas
Sask Hunter
As well as posting the land "HUNTING WITH PERMISSION" please put your phone # on the sign as well.
Just so those of us who would like permission can call you and set up a time to visit after we get directions...lots of people do not live on their land or farm anymore...
Post it Permission only and PLEASE include your phone #...
Please send me a pm with your info and location and when I get an opportunity to hunt near you I will call you and anyone else who has issues...heck I'll come and put up the signs with and/or for you...
Merry Christmas
Sask Hunter
