This is my first restricted long gun so I'm looking for some some ideas for a storage/transport case. I have one of those cheapo rifle cases Can. Tire that I used for my other guns but it's way to big even for a 40" OAL gun. M4 just looks stupid in that giant case. What do you guys use? I was thinking maybe I can even use a large briefcase type and just brake the gun down to make it fit.
Storage/Transport case for M4?
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It does not have to be a hard case, soft cases work just as well.... as long as the zippers can be locked together your good to go.
https://dstactical.com/product_info.php?cPath=128&products_id=491
https://dstactical.com/product_info.php?cPath=128&products_id=491
It does not have to be a hard case, soft cases work just as well.... as long as the zippers can be locked together your good to go.
https://dstactical.com/product_info.php?cPath=128&products_id=491
Most cops I know have issues with the soft cases and I agree.
well most cops you know should get on the cfc website and read the law, "sturdy, non transparent container" can be anything.... it does not specify a hard case.
after all.... a cardboard box meets all of the above definitions as well.
Its "intrepretion".
I dont consider a nylon rifle case sturdy. I consider a a hard plastic case sturdy.
Interpretation.
Leave it up to the judge to decide, then. His is the only interpretation that really counts.
If I can't get into it with my bare hands, it's "sturdy". I don't own a soft case that I can tear apart with my bare hands.
Agreed. But do you want to go through the hassel?
Hassle.
The word "sturdy" is not in the storage or transport laws. The *actual* storage and transportation laws follow:
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STORAGE OF RESTRICTED FIREARMS
6. An individual may store a restricted firearm only if
(a) it is unloaded;
(b) it is
(i) rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device and stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or
(ii) stored in a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked; and
(c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in
(i) a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or
(ii) a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked.
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TRANSPORTATION OF RESTRICTED FIREARMS
11. An individual may transport a restricted firearm only if
(a) it is unloaded;
(b) it is rendered inoperable by means of a secure
locking device;
(c) it is in a locked container that is made of an opaque material and is of such strength, construction and nature that it cannot readily be broken open or into or accidentally opened during transportation; and
(d) if it is in a container described in paragraph (c) that is in an unattended vehicle,
(i) when the vehicle is equipped with a trunk or similar compartment that can be securely locked, the container is in that trunk or compartment and the trunk or compartment is securely locked, and
(ii) when the vehicle is not equipped with a trunk or similar compartment that can be securely locked, the vehicle, or the part of the vehicle that contains the container, is securely locked and the container is not visible from outside the vehicle.
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For the purpose of this discussion, important sections are:
-"a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot *readily* be broken open or into" (storage)
-"a locked container that is made of an opaque material and is of such strength, construction and nature that it cannot *readily* be broken open or into" (transportation)
A lot hinges on how a court would define "readily".
readily: without much difficulty (from my computers dictionary)
readily: without delay or difficulty; easily (Merriam-Webster)
"Cannot readily be broken open or into" seems to be a fairly low standard to meet. It certainly does fall to a judge or a jury to decide, but the word "readily" in the statutes combined with the Canadian legal concept of reasonable doubt would make that 5.11 case seem *to me* (make up your own damn mind on the issue) to be a reasonable way to meet the laws. I only wear a belt without suspenders though. I've never heard of this type of case going to court either.
5.11 case link again:
ht tps://dstactical.com/product_info.php?cPath=128&products_id=491
The word "sturdy" is not in the storage or transport laws. The *actual* storage and transportation laws follow:
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STORAGE OF RESTRICTED FIREARMS
6. An individual may store a restricted firearm only if
(a) it is unloaded;
(b) it is
(i) rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device and stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or
(ii) stored in a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked; and
(c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in
(i) a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or
(ii) a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked.
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TRANSPORTATION OF RESTRICTED FIREARMS
11. An individual may transport a restricted firearm only if
(a) it is unloaded;
(b) it is rendered inoperable by means of a secure
locking device;
(c) it is in a locked container that is made of an opaque material and is of such strength, construction and nature that it cannot readily be broken open or into or accidentally opened during transportation; and
(d) if it is in a container described in paragraph (c) that is in an unattended vehicle,
(i) when the vehicle is equipped with a trunk or similar compartment that can be securely locked, the container is in that trunk or compartment and the trunk or compartment is securely locked, and
(ii) when the vehicle is not equipped with a trunk or similar compartment that can be securely locked, the vehicle, or the part of the vehicle that contains the container, is securely locked and the container is not visible from outside the vehicle.
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For the purpose of this discussion, important sections are:
-"a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot *readily* be broken open or into" (storage)
-"a locked container that is made of an opaque material and is of such strength, construction and nature that it cannot *readily* be broken open or into" (transportation)
A lot hinges on how a court would define "readily".
readily: without much difficulty (from my computers dictionary)
readily: without delay or difficulty; easily (Merriam-Webster)
"Cannot readily be broken open or into" seems to be a fairly low standard to meet. It certainly does fall to a judge or a jury to decide, but the word "readily" in the statutes combined with the Canadian legal concept of reasonable doubt would make that 5.11 case seem *to me* (make up your own damn mind on the issue) to be a reasonable way to meet the laws. I only wear a belt without suspenders though. I've never heard of this type of case going to court either.
5.11 case link again:
ht tps://dstactical.com/product_info.php?cPath=128&products_id=491
you probably leave the tag on your matress too.....
haha yeah I do actually. You probably made my matress. Sounds like you need a hug.
frenchyguy
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i use a hard case, just so i can spend more time shooting, and less time explaining myself to a L.E.O. but thats my personal preference, others have their own preference. all are correct. its up to you (the op) to take in all the info and decided for yourself =) i rip the tags off my mattresses, simply because i can.
