Styer HS 50

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Local hunting shop {PM for name} here in Whitehorse just got in a Styer HS50 selling for $5400. First time ever handling one of these beasts, heavy but well built!:sniper:
Trying to slip that one into the house undetected would be an impossible chore and besides eating kraft dinner for the next year just doesn't do it for me!
 
Yah...someday. There is a club out here (Milcun) I am joining this year that is working on a 1000M (yard?) range.

After that, I just might have to get ANOTHER part time job and get one. Then rob a bank to feed it. :D

I've blown money on worse...
 
They have a reasonable look cool factor, but The Styer is basically just a $5400 factory rifle. For about the same money, you can get into a Custom 50 from Alberta Tactical.... It's where I'd spend my money.
 
The problems I have seen with the Steyrs is the 2 pc stock is NOT conducive to great accuracy especially if you shoot it from the bipod, the stock flexs far too much.
The cheekrest requires either removal so you can get you eye in line with the scope OR rings that are EXTREMELY high which unless you have a neck like a giraffe makes decent cheek weld near impossible.
The brakes are brutal as well to the shooter, recoil is light but the concussion is enormous.
For a disposable battle rifle that is mass produced they are great, but foe accuracy and how a rifle should fit a shooter they leave alot to be desired.
At about $10.00 per shot , personally I would favor accuracy over what many seem to think is a cool look.
NOW if cool looks AND accuracy is the plan check this out.

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We are bringing in some of these later this year, they ain't cheap but ARE accurate
 
What type of rifle is that and how much is "not cheap" :D.
The .50 BMG game is currently out of my league but some day......

Thanks
 
Alright, I know this is going to be painful, but, ATR, could you please PM me with a little info as to delivery times and price? Thanks!
 
Rather than mass pms,
The rifle is an AMSD Nemesis, made in Switzerland.
I have a few on order, and hope to have them in country by fall.
I got word today from the CFC that these are NON restricted for sure and now have an FRT number.
Exact price I won't know until they land here, I am likely going over to bring them back in person, but the projected selling price will be between $10500.00 and $11000.00 if all goes as planned.
I have also landed a deal on another large quantity of 50 brass, ammo and bullets that I hope to send home as well.
Stay tuned it IS going to get interesting here.
 
Seem to remember seeing Ricks fancy-shmancy customs get beaten by some production rifles......


Kidding....just kidding, Rick......:D:D

What kinda bullets coming?
 
If there's a 50 shoot this year, I am going to have to enter because even though load developement and practice will be costly, the range is only out to 700meters. This isn't really even getting started for the 50s. The Summerland fun shoot will be interesting with over a mile of Natural playground.
 
Dmay said:
Seem to remember seeing Ricks fancy-shmancy customs get beaten by some production rifles......


Kidding....just kidding, Rick......:D:D

What kinda bullets coming?
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Nothing wrong with your memory, just goes to prove that the nut behind the trigger makes all the difference. As I recall the same event I shot a grouping 1/2 the size of the nearest competition, it just happened to be on the wrong target so was not counted.

As for bullets, Lapua and a couple of British made bullets.
Look like this
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Steyr 50's

A.T.R. is right on the ball on the description of the Steyr, My buddy bought one to shoot with me , I have one of the Prarie gun works Target 50's. He's had it over a year and he's still not entirely happy with it, it likes the attention he gets at the range but he admits it doesn't shoot.
The muzzle brake is very effective at taking up recoil but it sends the blast directly back into the shooters face, damn near causes nose bleeds, he has to wear goggles to shoot it. (looks kinda silly actually) He really likes mine alot and is considering selling off his to upgrade to the PGW piece, and as for the price you,d have to check their web site (see pgw steve) but I think they're going for around $6500 not $10,500 like other makers.
And if your paying $10/ pc for ammo your being screwed.
Once you own brass your golden there.
Approx 2.50 bullet
approx .45 primer
1 lb of powder @ $28-30/lb gets you 21-24 rds. approx.
You finish the math.

The Tin of M33 Ball plinkers I bought 1.5 yrs ago for $148 now has an asking price of near $650-700 because they can. Ammo is scarce. Look around and affordable ammo can be found / made.

M.
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I personally like the HS 50. I wish that I can hold/shoot it to see if I will still like it.
I also like the rifle that ATR sells but I have a hard time to convince my self that the extra 5 grand is worth buying it. I understand that if you pay 11 grand for a rifle you get a very good rifle and it will out shoot the HS 50. If I have the money I will most definitely pay the extra for a better rifle.
I want to get into long range shooting and I always say to "pay the extra money and start with the best"
The only real thing I have agenst the HS 50 is the fact that it dose not have a mag.

ATR what do you think of Accuracy International`s AS 50. I am not looking to buy one because I am sure it will be more expensive that the one you will be selling.
 
I was told by someone at the Accuracy Int. booth at SHOT that they will not be selling to civvies, as the US Navy is buying all AI can make.

Also at SHOT. The HS460
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Scharfschütze said:
I personally like the HS 50. I wish that I can hold/shoot it to see if I will still like it.
I also like the rifle that ATR sells but I have a hard time to convince my self that the extra 5 grand is worth buying it. I understand that if you pay 11 grand for a rifle you get a very good rifle and it will out shoot the HS 50. If I have the money I will most definitely pay the extra for a better rifle.
I want to get into long range shooting and I always say to "pay the extra money and start with the best"
The only real thing I have agenst the HS 50 is the fact that it dose not have a mag.

ATR what do you think of Accuracy International`s AS 50. I am not looking to buy one because I am sure it will be more expensive that the one you will be selling.
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I think you need some sorting out.
I build custom 50s from scratch, they sell for $5500.00 in a base model, there are any options that CAN increase the price. I also sell the Steyrs for $5500.00 to those who either just want a production rifle or do not want to wait for a custom.
I ALSO am importing some AMSDs Nemesis rifles for those who want repeaters, those are about $10000.00

I have shot the Accuracy Int AS 50, very decent rifle, VERY expensive rifle and as tootall points out they are not really available in Canuckistan
 
Seems to be odd for rifles that sell for more money than I would care to invest, no one has posted pics of groups shot with them. I would settle to see what they can do @ 100 mtrs even though their supposed to be the end all for the 1000yd + crowd.
 
The problem is, with most 50cal shooters, it's a novelty to own one as appose to taking them out and shooting it. Imagine if you will doing load developement with a 50cal going up in 1gr increments shooting 3shot groups to find the perfect load with match bullets like you would with a 308 or even a 338LM. It gets costly so most people are happy just to buy military ball ammo and live with the fact that accuracy could be achieved but at a cost that would seriously cripple their pocket book. I've done load developement for people that obviously have more money then I do but but it cost them to get the results I was able to offer them. Every gun is different so your load data changes. Brass life isn't like it is in your 308 either. When the brass fire forms in your chamber, it doesn't shrink which means there's a little more casing prep in order to fit it in your gun again unless you have a really loose chamber much like the HS 50. But even with the chambers these rifles have, you're still going to run into brass growth and shorter casing life as a result. I think, for most people, if the looks of the gun makes them happy, accuracy is secondary when you're paying so much for ammo. Even reloading is a large pill to swallow with the enishal start up costs of equipment.
 
RockChucker said:
Seems to be odd for rifles that sell for more money than I would care to invest, no one has posted pics of groups shot with them. I would settle to see what they can do @ 100 mtrs even though their supposed to be the end all for the 1000yd + crowd.
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To waste ammo that is expensive through a 50 at 100 mtrs, is just that, a waste. The bullet is barely stable at 100 yards.
Most of us use a 500 yard zero and then start to work out.
It matters not what caliber you shoot 1/2 moa groups are 1/2 moa groups and 1 moa groups are 1 moa groups, only the diameter of the holes differ.
Personally I am not big on shooting paper I find it boring compared to shooting reactive targets.

Here is a 5 shot group at 500 yards on paper
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This is what I prefer to shoot at
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And theis is what it looks like at 1000 yards
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very nice

damn, i'm gonna have to move west to where there's room to play with these.

M.
Target from test load last year, they were in the process of shutting down the range for the weekend for a black powder match, got in long enough to shoot 15 rds. 8 on one target 7 on another, other target got wet. Flinched twice when black powder gun beside me went off, yeah, yeah, i know excuses , excuses.

M

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Ice-Pick said:
damn, i'm gonna have to move west to where there's room to play with these.

M.
Target from test load last year, they were in the process of shutting down the range for the weekend for a black powder match, got in long enough to shoot 15 rds. 8 on one target 7 on another, other target got wet. Flinched twice when black powder gun beside me went off, yeah, yeah, i know excuses , excuses.

M

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Do you not find those round bullseye targets hard to deal with a range?
I find the cross type far easier to get decent groups with.
Come on out and shoot, we have a few long range shoots every year.
 
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