Suggestions for a NEW BARE Ruger PCC 9mm with 6-position Stock, pls.

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Hi, CGN Friends! Just bought this baby here and would like to start outfitting it with various accessories to make it look REALLY BAD!!!
Bought a new unit from one of the CGN advertisers/dealers so am happy to receive it last week.

Please advise what to add/where to buy/make & model of items. THANKS in advance.
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If you're looking for a reasonably priced red dot, grab a Sig Sauer Romeo5 with a 2moa dot. Make sure you get the low mount with it.
 
Do NOT mount a red dot... unless you just want to shoot clays or steel at 25 yards... get a decent AR style or straight tube scope, with a proper reticle... if you want illumination, there are many models that incorporate that with a proper cross hair reticle. The Carbine is capable of good accuracy out to 100 yards with a decent optic.
 
hoytcanon said:
Do NOT mount a red dot... unless you just want to shoot clays or steel at 25 yards... get a decent AR style or straight tube scope, with a proper reticle... if you want illumination, there are many models that incorporate that with a proper cross hair reticle. The Carbine is capable of good accuracy out to 100 yards with a decent optic.
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I disagree. I can consistently hit clays at 50m with my Ruger PCC.

Let's be honest, you aren't printing groups with a 9mm carbine like you might with a scoped centre fire rifle. That's just not the ballpark pistol calibre carbines play in.

A red dot is fast & absolutely at home on a PCC when it comes to acceptable accuracy.
 
Jay said:
I disagree. I can consistently hit clays at 50m with my Ruger PCC.

Let's be honest, you aren't printing groups with a 9mm carbine like you might with a scoped centre fire rifle. That's just not the ballpark pistol calibre carbines play in.

A red dot is fast & absolutely at home on a PCC when it comes to acceptable accuracy.
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To each their own... to.me, crappy accuracy is crappy accuracy. It depends on your intended use, for whacking steel at close range the red dot is good enough, but why not have the best of both worlds, plenty of straight tube variable power scopes incorporate illumination elements... why not aim quickly AND precisely? The difference is significant.
 
It sort of depends on your eyesight when it comes to hitting small targets at 100 yards without magnification.... if you can't see what your aiming at you might need glasses or magnification.

The Primary Arms micro 3x prisms are a good compromise if you want to keep the weight down and get some fixed magnification that is still useful offhand and at closer ranges.
Their 1x is nice as well but I find the gemini 9mm version to be a bit busy in use as the aim hold over points that are calibrated for 9mm carbines are a bit to close together for my eyes.

The lower power variable scopes are a good do it all if you don't mind the extra size and weight. Red dot's are fun as well if you don't have bad astigmatism.

I run them all.... :)
 
hoytcanon said:
Do NOT mount a red dot... unless you just want to shoot clays or steel at 25 yards... get a decent AR style or straight tube scope, with a proper reticle... if you want illumination, there are many models that incorporate that with a proper cross hair reticle. The Carbine is capable of good accuracy out to 100 yards with a decent optic.
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Quoted for truth. Even a 1-4 Crossfire with illuminated dot makes a big difference.
 
hoytcanon said:
To each their own... to.me, crappy accuracy is crappy accuracy. It depends on your intended use, for whacking steel at close range the red dot is good enough, but why not have the best of both worlds, plenty of straight tube variable power scopes incorporate illumination elements... why not aim quickly AND precisely? The difference is significant.
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It is for sure. These little carbines are quite accurate at 100. A red dot not so much.
 
The 9mm has the aeros of a bad brick. You can shoot decent groups out to 25 yards with a decent Red Dot. With a scope out to 50 yards. In my opinion out to a hundred even with a scope 5 shot groups are well on paper, just saying. I do have a 1x4 scope on one of my PCC 'S but for fast shooting out to 25 yards the red dots rule. The Ruger is a step up from a pinker and has a life as a PCC for competition. For small Charlotte deer out to 50 yards go for it. A target gun it is not.

Take Care
Bob
 
I use a Bushnell 1-4x 300BLK FFP LPVO or an Sig Romeo 5 depending on use. I plan to throw one of my 6-24x’s on it and push it to 300m. This was once a high up goal of mine until I started sending 22lr that far. I plan on posting groups of different ammo’s including some +p ammo. MCarbo trigger spring and Flat Face trigger compliment this firearm very well.
 
hoytcanon said:
To each their own... to.me, crappy accuracy is crappy accuracy. It depends on your intended use, for whacking steel at close range the red dot is good enough, but why not have the best of both worlds, plenty of straight tube variable power scopes incorporate illumination elements... why not aim quickly AND precisely? The difference is significant.
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I don't disagree that a crosshair results in more precision. But I think we are looking at the platform through different lenses?

For me, anything in 9mm carbine range isn't going to notice if you shot it 1,2 or 3" from your point of aim... A hit is a hit.

Canuck44 said:
The 9mm has the aeros of a bad brick. You can shoot decent groups out to 25 yards with a decent Red Dot. With a scope out to 50 yards. In my opinion out to a hundred even with a scope 5 shot groups are well on paper, just saying. I do have a 1x4 scope on one of my PCC 'S but for fast shooting out to 25 yards the red dots rule. The Ruger is a step up from a pinker and has a life as a PCC for competition. For small Charlotte deer out to 50 yards go for it. A target gun it is not.

Take Care
Bob
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^This is how I see the Ruger PCC, and it's tons of fun!
 
I have the exact same model. I did up grade with a few Mcarbo products including recoil shock buffer and charging handle. I had a spare Magpul bipod and a Primary Arm 3X micro prism red dot that now have found a new home. My eyes are not as good as they once were. Its a fun firearm to shoot.
 
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Canuck44 said:
The 9mm has the aeros of a bad brick. You can shoot decent groups out to 25 yards with a decent Red Dot. With a scope out to 50 yards. In my opinion out to a hundred even with a scope 5 shot groups are well on paper, just saying. I do have a 1x4 scope on one of my PCC 'S but for fast shooting out to 25 yards the red dots rule. The Ruger is a step up from a pinker and has a life as a PCC for competition. For small Charlotte deer out to 50 yards go for it. A target gun it is not.

Take Care
Bob
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I am saying that there are optics available that do not force you to make that big a compromise in the accuracy department... next time I get to the range, I will post some 100 meter groups... you might be surprised... we ring 200 meter 4" steel all the time.
 
Crappy accuracy is indeed crappy accuracy; accuracy that you brag about at 100 yards with a PC would embarrass you with a centerfire or even rimfire. To me, a 9mm or .357 or .44 carbine serves one purpose; coyote control within a 100 yard radius of my house. For that purpose, a 9mm scoped carbine that shoots 2.5 MOA scoped is great; but the same carbine shooting 3.5 MOA with a red dot is even better.

Using these guns instead of a .22Mag or Hornet or whatever just makes predator control more fun. I probably took 10 or 12 coyotes this year with a PCC...almost all shot from the deck, and mostly while wearing a bathrobe and slippers.

I am resisting the urge to wonder out loud why they were wearing bathrobes and slippers...where's my Groucho cigar? :)
 
This platform is very fun to tinker with and shoot. Grab yourself a bunch of accessories and use them interchangeably. I recommend:

TandemKross mag release (if you can find one in stock). If not, I recommend the Spectre Ballistics mag release (ships from Alberta).
TandemKross charging handles (several variations)
I like the MFT minimalist stock or swap to a different Magpul variation of your liking
I had an AimPoint Pro lying around, put it on mine and it hasn't come off. Some will say that's overkill for a PCC but for me it's perfect. I'd recommend going for a red dot with unlimited eye relief. There are others you could consider like the Riton Tactix RRD or Leupold RDS for example. For me, I found that shooting with both eyes open was a game changer.
You can add almost any M-lok accessory such as an OLight flashlight with pressure switch or underside front hand grip such as the Fortis Mfg
Enjoy playing with your new toy!
 
I've got a couple of the Ruger carbines. They are fun to shoot, reliable and seem to be accurate. Just stick a decent red dot on it and go have fun. It's not difficult to hit 6" steel at 100 with a carbine and a red dot.

I suppose if I wanted to shoot groups with these carbines from a bench or from prone I would look at a LPVO but I have lots of other rifles better suited to that so a red dot makes much more sense to me.

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+1 to the gib, Tandem kross makes some great accessories for the PC9, if I could find some, I’d show you!! Damn near impossible to find locally. I hear that you can order directly from TK though, so I’ll try that in the new year.
I put a vortex red dot on mine, but wanted some magnification, so I ended up with some scorpion trash that a friend sold me for a bag of hammers… not sure where I’ll end up on this, as I have a bunch of new pistols on the way that’ll probably take a big bite out of my “toy fund” but we’ll see.
Great gun though.
 
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