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Hey guys thought milsurp would be the place to go with these pics, my father found this last scallop season in the Gulf of St Lawrence, in the same area they found a large anchor but had to dump it at risk of breaking the boat, he said it looked like a military vessels style of anchor.
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Does that not have a large round STUD sticking out the side, not far up from the base?

If it does, then it is VERY old: 19th Century.

Studded shells were used on a variety of Rifled Muzzle Loading guns and on Muzzle Loading Rifles (the same but different).

They have been quite obsolete for the last 120 years.
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Claven2 said:
Hmm... wonder if it's an un-exploded HE round? For your sake, I hope not.
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Yeah, it looks like it might be both nose and base fused.

potentially VERY bad news.

Older fuses and explosives often become unstable with time, sometimes stability is affected by moisture content.

You really need an expert to examine it.

Just a few years ago an experienced and advanced collector accidentally blew himself up (dead) with a battlefield recovered US Civil war shell.
 
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Lee Enfield said:
Yeah, it looks like it might be both nose and base fused.

potentially VERY bad news.

Older fuses and explosives often become unstable with time, sometimes stability is affected by moisture content.

You really need an expert to examine it.

Just a few years ago an experienced and advanced collector accidentally blew himself up (dead) with a battlefield recovered US Civil war shell.
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I don't see a driving band, like a modern artillery projectile would have. Call me nuts:D, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's some kind of fishing weight. Awfull shiny as well to be iron or steel.

Grizz
 
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That's why I asked about the apparent STUD. They used those before driving bands came in.

We still don't know if it has a stud or band.
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I'd pay attention to the warnings in this thread personally guy. Might be worth putting this thing out in a safe area away from anyone and calling the Canadian Forces EOD people for an opinion or a disposal.

No idea what it is but why take a chance?

wgamble89 said:
Hey guys thought milsurp would be the place to go with these pics, my father found this last scallop season in the Gulf of St Lawrence, in the same area they found a large anchor but had to dump it at risk of breaking the boat, he said it looked like a military vessels style of anchor.
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Hey guys thanks for the comments I haven't seen it in a while my father still has it in his boat house, Griz it's definitely not a fishing weight, when I'm out home next I'll get some more detailed pictures. If memory serves me right there may be a whole rusted/ decayed into it.
 
In the 1980's someone threw a 105 mm HE round on a bonfire where it proceeded to blow up, killing people. Prior to the late 1980 PETE in Nicolet would fire onto the ice in Lac St-Pierre and recover the projectiles for further evaluations. They missed one and when the ice broke up in the spring the projectile floated downstream on the ice and later beached itself. Flash forward to 24 June (St-Jean Baptiste Day in Quebec) where people start bonfires.....

If there any doubt as to what the item is, leave it alone and call the police. They will contact EOD. Do not bring it into the local police station as it does pi..ss of the police when they have to evacuate their own police station. If the items turns out to be inert EOD will give it back to you. If not, it gets blown up in a safe location, and not when your 5 year old bangs on it in the basement. Blowing up the basement does pi..ses off your significant other no end!
 
Sounds like last scallop season could have been a real bla- Okay, that pun is too cheesy even for me. I find it ironic how you say taking old anchor could have damaged the boat, but taking home potentially unexploded ordnance isn't even a concern ;)

As cool as an old projectile is - if it turns out be one - I think you should really get that thing checked out for your families safety. I wouldn't want that thing in my house.

-Steve
 
Plenty of people and collectors have been harmed or killed by relics like these if it is munitions related. France and WW1 shells is a good example. Don't take any risks.
 
I would leave it submerged in a bucket of water, and then try to find someone who could identify what you've got.

The water is your friend. That sucker drys out, who knows?
 
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