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a friend of mine recently immigrated from South Africa-he was in the SA army fighting in Angola back in the 90's and he said the favourite weapon of choice for covert shooting was a suppressed .22 with subsonics...they would take out the point man silently and wait for the rest of the platoon to walk into their ambush...I know the regular .22 lr was pretty lethal-didn't realise that subsonics were as well....

supressed rifles were legal to own even for civilians there-he was surprised to learn they aren't in Canada...
 
A while back someone posted a link to a thread from the US where a guy wanted to test the power of .22LR. He took a thawed turkey and wrapped it in denim and canvas to simulate heavy clothing, then shot at it at 300yds with standard velocity (ie. - subsonic) target ammo. He hit it something like 6-7 out of maybe 20 shots and everyone went through all the layers of fabric, the turkey and stuck into the fabric in the back. One went all the way through everything. At 300yds.

So, yeah, I would say that standard velocity rimfire is plenty deadly, especially up close with a good shooter doing the firing.

As for suppressors, they are legal all over the western world except Canada because our government had its head up its ass for a long, long time and the sheep allowed it.

EDIT - Found the article: http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=503007#Post503007

Mark
 
IDF had to reclassify their integrally suppressed Ruger 10/22 'less lethal' rifle when is was apparent it wasmore lethal than thought. Interesting article on that too.
 
rounds like the CB are pretty damn quiet even without a suppressor, probably close to, or even quieter than a lot of pellet guns.
 
Isn't a subsonic just a couple hundred fps slower(then a reg .22lr rnd)? Doubt a person would notice the difference if shot with one.
 
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US Navy Seal teams have supressed Ruger 10-22's in there inventory, so must work well for specialized deployments?
Canada is all about Health and Saftey, so the question is why no suppressors? Just a thought, might want to help keep our ears from hearing loss!
 
I was checking some CB longs for penetration at 25 yards ,and they blow right through 3/8''plywood.I put a second piece behind it and they lodged the other side of that.I would think head shots would be lethal at close range.I haven't checked Sub Sonic's yet, but the velocity is just under the sound barrier to avoid the ''crack''
As said-farmers have been using 22 shorts to dispatch cows and pigs,so they must work
 
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They kill cows with 22 short.
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Just read a story about a .22 short 'gallery' rnd(frangible compressed iron powder) being shot through a door, splitting in 2, and still reached the heart.

Guy was drunk & trying to kill his exgf, and that's all she had to defend herself with.
 
Really!

Your "friend" may want to change his story a little.

The Bush War ended in '89.

Also, except for a couple of elite units, the SADF generally did not issue "silenced .22s".

In South Africa, anyone could walk into a gun shop, pay cash, and walk out with the suppressor of their choice.

Regards.

Mark
 
rounds like the CB are pretty damn quiet even without a suppressor, probably close to, or even quieter than a lot of pellet guns.
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They aren't as quiet as you think. Can't remember the exact number off the top of my head but I metered some CB's for the Legalize Suppressors report and that data is in the report .... which is posted in the Legalize Suppressors thread on CGN.

The biggest problem with CB's is they won't cycle a semi-auto action.

Subsonics or match ammo are a much better choice. They are rdiculously quiet with a suppressor and will still cycle a semo-auto action. The bigger, heavier bullet also offers more striking power at the other end.
 
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