Surplus browning Hi Powers? (Non-Inglis)

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So, the Hi Power is one of the most adopted automatic pistols throughout the latter half of the 20th century. So, one has to wonder, where did they all go? I know some countries such as the UK and unfortunately soon to be Canada, would have destroyed all their inventory, but where are the rest? I know some were brought in to the US, but why few to Canada? I know they won't be as common as all the warsaw surplus, but their has to be a few thousand Hi Powers in serviceable condition floating around somewhere.

Anyone know where all the Surplus Hi Powers went?
 
I've seen CZ75 and Beretta 92S surplus for around $299 US online. Unsure about BHP.

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You must be new to the surplus game.

Do an internet search of the US importers and distributors to find a variety of surplus High Power pistols. AIM, Century Arms, Samco ect.

Inglis High Powers are in Canada from a variety of sources, Australia, China, New Zealand, the UK, Belgium and Holland just to name a few.

Argentina (FEM), Bulgaria (Arcus), Hungary (FEG), India (iA1) and Israel (Kareen) all produced "licensed "or "unlicensed" P35/High Power clones for military contract. They have also released directly to the commercial market.

Military contract Belgian High Powers have come to Canada from a variety of countries.

The real reason you haven't seen many imported to Canada is the fact that most of the guns were released AFTER the 1986 change to prohibiting military firearms from being imported into the US.

The Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA-68) stopped the import of ALL military surplus firearms (except provably police owned) into the USA, this was in place from 1968-1986.

This was a huge boon for Canadian surplus collectors as we got a chance at some really rare firearms during that period.
 
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I have asked the same question many times!!! There has to be thousands of these pistols around as surplus, I see ads in the US all the time Gunbroker and others but never here in Canada. I emailed IRunguns and asked if they could bring some in and never even got a reply. There is a market here if the price is right but nobody seems willing to source them or sell them. It doesn't make sense, we see ads for other surplus handguns but none have them have been as popular as the Hi Power

LeeEnfieldNo.4_mk1 said:
So, the Hi Power is one of the most adopted automatic pistols throughout the latter half of the 20th century. So, one has to wonder, where did they all go? I know some countries such as the UK and unfortunately soon to be Canada, would have destroyed all their inventory, but where are the rest? I know some were brought in to the US, but why few to Canada? I know they won't be as common as all the warsaw surplus, but their has to be a few thousand Hi Powers in serviceable condition floating around somewhere.

Anyone know where all the Surplus Hi Powers went?
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multiman1 said:
I have asked the same question many times!!! There has to be thousands of these pistols around as surplus, I see ads in the US all the time Gunbroker and others but never here in Canada. I emailed IRunguns and asked if they could bring some in and never even got a reply. There is a market here if the price is right but nobody seems willing to source them or sell them. It doesn't make sense, we see ads for other surplus handguns but none have them have been as popular as the Hi Power
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Because most of the importers attempt to buy ALL of the available guns, and as the US is the biggest market, they are usually American companies.

Back in the 60s thru early 90s International Firearms ( the parent company to Century Arms International) was based in Montreal and sorted and distributed guns from there to the US so we got a good selection of surplus before the US market.

Kim Campbell's C17 (handgun and rifle prohibitions) and Chretians C68 universal registration forced IF/CAI (and several other companies) out of business, or out of Canada.
 
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I agree, you'd think someone like Marstar would be dealing in stuff like surplus BHP's.

Didn't Questar bring in a bunch of the FEG versions a couple of years ago? 399? 299???
 
sailor723 said:
I agree, you'd think someone like Marstar would be dealing in stuff like surplus BHP's.

Didn't Questar bring in a bunch of the FEG versions a couple of years ago? 399? 299???
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Not a huge number of BHPs were surplused from Eastern Europe where Marstar has most of their contacts...

Questar imported those FEGs from the US.

Canada is a little too small a market for most importers, in fact, Marstar sells most of their purchases to wholesalers in the US market.
 
gnmontey said:
Seriously? Where does this info originate from?

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From John himself.....100,000's of Yugo mausers and SKS went to the US, most of the Hirtenberger 7.62 ammo they are bringing in is going to the US as well.
Canada is a small market and money dictates where stuff goes.
 
On a related note, apperently Inda received all the tooling from Inglis and still produces Hi Powers. Anyone know the quality of the Indian Hi Powers? If they are decent and priced accordingly I would be interested in one.
 
LeeEnfieldNo.4_mk1 said:
On a related note, apperently Inda received all the tooling from Inglis and still produces Hi Powers. Anyone know the quality of the Indian Hi Powers? If they are decent and priced accordingly I would be interested in one.
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According to Clive Law, the Inglis tooling was not sold/given to India, they simply reverse engineered the Inglis No2MkI*...

About 10 years ago a good number of IA pistols was released into the US market. There were good reports on the magazines and the guns.

The ones I've seen ranged from flat brand new (parkerized), to heavily over buffed and refinished (both blued and parkerized).

Watch for a split pin or roll pin being used as the trigger pin.
 
Interesting. I am thinking of buying another Hi Power and would not mind a nice, workhorse. I wonder which dealer would have the best luck in importing? Marstar? Wolverine?

Lee Enfield said:
According to Clive Law, the Inglis tooling was not sold/given to India, they simply reverse engineered the Inglis No2MkI*...

About 10 years ago a good number of IA pistols was released into the US market. There were good reports on the magazines and the guns.

The ones I've seen ranged from flat brand new (parkerized), to heavily over buffed and refinished (both blued and parkerized).

Watch for a split pin or roll pin being used as the trigger pin.
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Years ago (early 90's) there where a lot of No2 Mk1* ex-CF guns floating around, I picked up a 9T gun that was much better condition than my issue gun.

Down here, surplus guns are running around $750 for fair to poor condition (crazy).

I picked up a NIB Novak BHP (older gun, never fired) last month to bring the BHP back into my collection.


FNH has around 1000 old post war BHP's -- they should be in the US later this year -- wooden box gun, that are new-unissued condition. That should help bring the BHP surplus market back down to reality here. As well there are plans to bring the BHP back via FN USA as a made in the US model (and a revamped modern model version too)
 
A revamped, modern BHP would be extremely interesting! Can you give us any hints about what kind of features we would see on the modern version?
 
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