svt 40 bayonets in Calgary
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$200-$250 has been the going rate for the bayonets for quite some time, even when the guns themselves were going for $200.
I have a couple of the bayonets and only one of the rifles. Going to need to rectify that imbalance some day. And not by selling something
I have a couple of the bayonets and only one of the rifles. Going to need to rectify that imbalance some day. And not by selling something
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For some reason the web site allowed me to do everything but actually click "Complete" at the end.
Watch out for Polish post-war reworks and/or Polish made fake SVT bayonets, based on some parts from original SVT bayonets. What this site sells as SVT-38 bayonet is not authentic bayonet, but also a Polish "rework". What they have as "non-refurbished" bayonet has very funky markings. Buyer's beware of unscrupulous dealers.
For $220-250 one can buy authentic refurbished bayonet, they pop up on EE from time to time.
For $220-250 one can buy authentic refurbished bayonet, they pop up on EE from time to time.
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If you read the text on his listing for the "SVT-38" bayonet, he makes clear that it's a post war Polish refurb. But they aren't as rare as he's claiming.
Corwin Arms brought in a number of them last year, and was selling them in and around the $150 mark (and he was clear about what they were). Nazi Bill at Things Military is just up to his usual shenanigans, keeping enough truth in his ad copy to avoid being called out on mis-representation, then charging the moon for something that's not actually all that rare.
Looking at that Bayo, I'm pretty sure it's one of the ones that Corwin-Arms brought in last year, and then through whatever process of intermediaries, has ended up at Things Military. I wouldn't be surprised if the other SVT bayos he has listed also originally came in from Corwin-Arms - which means they were all Polish refurbs, as that was the last (as far as I know) significant batch of SVT bayos that came into the country.
Martin from Cowin-Arms was very clear about what he was selling, so might as well pass along the details (because this is probably what you're actually getting from Things Military):
After the war, Poland maintained the SVT-40 in their arsenals well into the 60's, and possibly early 70's. They were primarily used at military colleges for training and drill purposes. These were refurbed through the Polish Arsenals (not sure which factories), and represent a fair number of the SVT's that have ended up in Canada over the past couple of years as they've finally been released onto the surplus market.
As a drill/training rifle, the Poles needed bayonets for them. These were in short supply from the Soviets, as they were more likely to be lost/destroyed during the war than the rifles themselves, and a great many were melted down by the Soviet arsenals after the war.
The Poles took the expedient of getting as many bayos as they could from the Soviet arsenals, as well as partials and parts and incomplete stampings. These were all sent to the Wilkas / Wikolak knife manufacture to be mixmastered together, and if necessary completed.
Wilkas /Wikolak is a fairly decent knife manufacturing concern, and even makes AR-15 contract bayonets to this day.
While these SVT bayos aren't what I would call "pure" - they aren't fakes or repros either. They were genuine East Block manufacture as a part of the arsenal system from the time (50's and 60's refurb).
I have one "pure" bayonet I got from a different dealer a while back (not for sale at any price) and one of the Polish refurbs. Generally, if you look closely at the wood on the handles of the Polish refurbs, you should be able to make out a faint stamping of the Polish Eagle crest. I have some pics I'll look up when I get home tonight if I remember.
Anyway.
Value? Who the hell knows. Whatever someone is willing to pay for them. As a general rule though, I don't deal with Things Military. That place has gotten up to some shenanigans in the past, and he's done a few things to give the Canadian firearms community a bad name over the years.
I was referring to two different types of bayonets in my post - a) post war reworks that were brought to Canada recently (I can't comment if they are authentic reworks or modern stuff as I don't have enough information and honestly I have no interest investigating post-war stuff) and b) fakes that are made to resemble authentic SVT-40 bayonets. Now, those fakes were known to me since 2000x and were made in Poland. Looking at the blurry pictures of the $199 "non-refurbished" one I can tell there are couple of things I don't like. So I advised to be cautious. So that is just my personal opinion and is everyone is entitled to his own.
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I dislike dealing with bill. you never know whats goin on he will tell you whatever it takes to make the sale. he has known his "non corrosive" is so for a long time but just keeps advertiseing it
I dont buy anything from that guy anymore (things military)...... He sells ammo marked " non corrosive" that is actually corrosive, Replica muskets that he says "are safe to fire projectiles out of, you just need to drill vent holes " ;... yah, im pretty sure if they were meant to be fired, they would already have vent holes in them from the manufacture. And he tells lies and things that sound like lies. Like " i cant sell firearms because I do not have my firearms license " but yet he can sell ammo ?? he tells people that he will no longer be receiving a product and that they should buy it now before his stock runs out. Yet you walk in 5 days later and his store is full of it. I witnessed him once tell a curious old man and his little grandson that Norinco ammunition was banned from entering the country anymore. Never gone there since.
Nomen illis legio.
Buddy, you seem to be very loud and vocal when it comes to discussing fakes. Why are you so afraid of truth?
Are you involved in faking SVT-40 snipers, SVT-40 nazi captures, Polish marked Soviet M44 and SVT-40s? Do you think ppl are dumb and don't see what's happening and who is behind all this stuff? Just half an hour of browsing this forum and GunBoards will bring interesting results about fake Polish and Nazi marking being applied in Canada. Every time there's a talk about fakes you and "erkner" are immediately here bashing authentic rifles or authentic bayonets. You agenda is clear and your aggressive stance is actually just another proof that collectors made right conclusion on who's behind this. You're actually taking advantage of my relaxed attitude towards this problem. But should you keep behaving rude I'll find the time to put together already known facts and it won't be pretty as one of the site sponsors is involved.
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I was wondering how long that would take. Give it a rest man.
Everyone has different pieces of information. Put it on the table, leave it for discussion, and lets keep the personal stuff for the Bike Racks, After School.
