Mumbles Marble Mouth
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Lower Mainland
So finally after nearly 3 weeks of owning my Mosin Nagant, and almost 1 week of owning my SVT-40, I finally got a change to try them out. First, I'm very happy about the SVT-40's performance today. Every YouTube video I watched of SVT-40's had very poor accuracy and it almost made me not get one. I kept in mind that the shooters in all the videos I watched had poor shooting skill so I got one anyways and boy am I ever glad. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
First up is the Mosin Nagant. I thought when I first got the gun, that the front sight post was bent to the left. I posted a picture of it and every one said I'm on crack and its not bent. Today confirmed that the post is indeed bent. The gun always hit very high and way off to the right. I already was expecting the gun to hit high from watching videos on YouTube. The majority of the videos said their Mosins hit high even at 100 meters. The Mosin also kicked like a mule in comparison to the SVT-40 and noticeably worse than my CZ 550 .270win. It took 2 practice shots to get a feel for the trigger and a feel for the recoil. Flinched on the first shot, then never again after that.
The ammo being used today is 185gr FMJ MFS. I was told that the Mosin Nagant likes lighter grain bullets like 150gr or 147gr loads. From after today, I'm beginning to believe them however, I'll have to get a hold of some 150gr 7.62x54r to confirm that. The SVT-40 however, out performed the Mosin with this ammo. It loved it. It ate it up, healthy ejections, no miss fires, no failures to feed. It just ran like a champ the whole time. Granted though, I only fired 20 rounds though each gun.
Once again, here is my range, the Pacific Rim Fish & Game Range. I have one practice target set up at 50 meters, and 3 targets set up at 100 meters. 1 is a practice target, the other 2 were for the final 4 shots to do the best group I could try to do.
Here is where I confirmed the Mosin has a bent front sight post. I was almost thinking I wasn't going to have a 100 meter target to show you guys as this was the last 4 shots for the Mosin. In order to hit that target where I did, I put up this target I found on the ground and aimed at the center of it.... wow that's some serious sight issues. When I tried 50 meters, the Mosin hit the top right corner of the target so I figured, aim at the bottom of the 100 meter target off to the left. Nope, nothing hit the target. Tried again but aimed further down, only had one hit in the top right corner on paper. Decided to throw that target up so I had something consistent to aim at and whammo! Got you guys 1, 100 meter, 8.9cm (3.5") group. I'll show you the Mosins 50 meter practice target in a moment.
The SVT-40's Turn
The SVT-40 out shined the Mosin today. Not only did it function flawlessly, It also has much less recoil then the Mosin and the SVT obviously loved this 185gr MFS ammo. In the 50 meter practice shots, it fired a 4.5cm (1.75") group! I was shocked, the first 4 shots I fire out of it. I had the gas setting at 1.5 and didn't have any issues today. The cases ejected forward and off to the right clearing the table.
If you guys are looking for a tool to adjust your gas systems on your SVT-40's, here is what you need. I was digging though my tool box and found a set of these mini wrenches my dad gave me years ago. I tried all of them but this one 13/64" fit like its made for it. Someone told me a 5.5mm socket and socket driver work great for adjusting the gas system but the 5.5mm doesn't fit well. Its very loose, but does work. Problem is, its difficult to line the marks up with the socket as it blocks your view of them marks where this mini wrench doesn't. I'm sure you can find one at your local hardware store.
Here is the 50 meter practice target I mentioned earlier with the SVT-40's group and the Mosins group up in the right corner. These where the first group attempts fired out of both of these rifles. The SVT for a sold 4.5cm (1.75") 4 shot group and the Mosin got a pretty bad 7.62cm (3") 3 shot group. The Mosin however, got a 8.9cm (3.5") group at 100.
Now this one is the SVT-40 and Mosin Nagants 100 meter practice target. The SVT-40's string group being a very nice 7.62cm (3") well the Mosin only managed to put one shot on paper due to the sights being bent and hitting high. It took 13 rounds with the Mosin just to figure out just how high and how far to the right its hitting at 100 meters.
Now here is the SVT-40's last 4 shots best group possible target. I aimed at the bottom of the target trying to get the group closer to the center. I'm very happy about this group. I'm going to count the flyer as part of this group. With the "flyer", its still a pretty good 11.4cm (4.5") group. Very nice for the SVT. Without the "flyer" however, Its 3.8cm (1.5")!!
Bottom line, I really like these two rifles. Even with the Mosins issue with the bent sight post, its really a blast to shoot. I also need to confirm if the Mosin really does like the lighter grain loads. I will also work on getting the sight fixed and try it again. The SVT-40!!! I love that gun. 
The SVT loves this 185gr MFS obviously but I will also try a lighter 150gr bullet just to compare and see if it does in fact make a difference. Since the ammo was clean, non-corrosive, it took me 30 minutes to clean both of the guns. Anyways, thanks for reading my Range Report and get out there and shoot!!!
First up is the Mosin Nagant. I thought when I first got the gun, that the front sight post was bent to the left. I posted a picture of it and every one said I'm on crack and its not bent. Today confirmed that the post is indeed bent. The gun always hit very high and way off to the right. I already was expecting the gun to hit high from watching videos on YouTube. The majority of the videos said their Mosins hit high even at 100 meters. The Mosin also kicked like a mule in comparison to the SVT-40 and noticeably worse than my CZ 550 .270win. It took 2 practice shots to get a feel for the trigger and a feel for the recoil. Flinched on the first shot, then never again after that.
The ammo being used today is 185gr FMJ MFS. I was told that the Mosin Nagant likes lighter grain bullets like 150gr or 147gr loads. From after today, I'm beginning to believe them however, I'll have to get a hold of some 150gr 7.62x54r to confirm that. The SVT-40 however, out performed the Mosin with this ammo. It loved it. It ate it up, healthy ejections, no miss fires, no failures to feed. It just ran like a champ the whole time. Granted though, I only fired 20 rounds though each gun.
Once again, here is my range, the Pacific Rim Fish & Game Range. I have one practice target set up at 50 meters, and 3 targets set up at 100 meters. 1 is a practice target, the other 2 were for the final 4 shots to do the best group I could try to do.
Here is where I confirmed the Mosin has a bent front sight post. I was almost thinking I wasn't going to have a 100 meter target to show you guys as this was the last 4 shots for the Mosin. In order to hit that target where I did, I put up this target I found on the ground and aimed at the center of it.
... wow that's some serious sight issues. When I tried 50 meters, the Mosin hit the top right corner of the target so I figured, aim at the bottom of the 100 meter target off to the left. Nope, nothing hit the target. Tried again but aimed further down, only had one hit in the top right corner on paper. Decided to throw that target up so I had something consistent to aim at and whammo! Got you guys 1, 100 meter, 8.9cm (3.5") group. I'll show you the Mosins 50 meter practice target in a moment. 
The SVT-40's Turn
The SVT-40 out shined the Mosin today. Not only did it function flawlessly, It also has much less recoil then the Mosin and the SVT obviously loved this 185gr MFS ammo. In the 50 meter practice shots, it fired a 4.5cm (1.75") group! I was shocked, the first 4 shots I fire out of it.
I had the gas setting at 1.5 and didn't have any issues today. The cases ejected forward and off to the right clearing the table. 
If you guys are looking for a tool to adjust your gas systems on your SVT-40's, here is what you need. I was digging though my tool box and found a set of these mini wrenches my dad gave me years ago. I tried all of them but this one 13/64" fit like its made for it. Someone told me a 5.5mm socket and socket driver work great for adjusting the gas system but the 5.5mm doesn't fit well. Its very loose, but does work. Problem is, its difficult to line the marks up with the socket as it blocks your view of them marks where this mini wrench doesn't. I'm sure you can find one at your local hardware store.
Here is the 50 meter practice target I mentioned earlier with the SVT-40's group and the Mosins group up in the right corner. These where the first group attempts fired out of both of these rifles. The SVT for a sold 4.5cm (1.75") 4 shot group and the Mosin got a pretty bad 7.62cm (3") 3 shot group. The Mosin however, got a 8.9cm (3.5") group at 100.
Now this one is the SVT-40 and Mosin Nagants 100 meter practice target. The SVT-40's string group being a very nice 7.62cm (3") well the Mosin only managed to put one shot on paper due to the sights being bent and hitting high. It took 13 rounds with the Mosin just to figure out just how high and how far to the right its hitting at 100 meters.
Now here is the SVT-40's last 4 shots best group possible target. I aimed at the bottom of the target trying to get the group closer to the center. I'm very happy about this group. I'm going to count the flyer as part of this group. With the "flyer", its still a pretty good 11.4cm (4.5") group. Very nice for the SVT
. Without the "flyer" however, Its 3.8cm (1.5")!! 
Bottom line, I really like these two rifles. Even with the Mosins issue with the bent sight post, its really a blast to shoot. I also need to confirm if the Mosin really does like the lighter grain loads. I will also work on getting the sight fixed and try it again. The SVT-40!!!
I love that gun. The SVT loves this 185gr MFS obviously but I will also try a lighter 150gr bullet just to compare and see if it does in fact make a difference. Since the ammo was clean, non-corrosive, it took me 30 minutes to clean both of the guns. Anyways, thanks for reading my Range Report and get out there and shoot!!!
