SVT 40 - no scope grooves?

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Hi folks,

I just noticed that, although my rifle is stamped as 1942 (Tula), it doesn't appera to have any grooves for mounting a scope. I asked the question in another thread and the consensus was that rifles of that vintage should still have them. Since my experience with this rifle could be written on the head of a pin, I'd like to ask again for your help.

1) Is there a chance that I'm just not "seeing" the grooves (i.e., significantly different than a typical mount.

2) If there are no grooves, are there any alternate ways to mount a scope on this rifle (i.e., side-mount)?

Any and all input is appreciated, thanks again for your help! :)
 
They stopped putting grooves on them to save time and money "plus the Soviet liked the mosin snipers better"
 
They started around 1942 to stop machining the grooves, so it is normal that will find them with and without it, but that is not written stone because I seen one dated 1943 still with grooves.
 
Dsiwy said:
They stopped putting grooves on them to save time and money "plus the Soviet liked the mosin snipers better"
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Yeah, I guess that's no real surprise...

JP said:
They started around 1942 to stop machining the grooves, so it is normal that will find them with and without it, but that is not written stone because I seen one dated 1943 still with grooves.
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Hmmmmm...To quote that intrepid spy, Maxwell Smart - "Missed...by THAT much..." :(

Ok, for part two of my question; does anyone know if it's possible to mount a scope on the rifle without inflicting any permanent scars? Otherwise, I think it's going to effect the fun factor at the range for me...a bit.

Thanks again for the feedback, folks, I really appreciate it!
 
Scopes on SVT40's are overrated. They are best as an iron sight rifle really. IMHO. I tried a bunch of different mounts and they all had their issues.

Are you really missing anything?

SlasH58 said:
Hi folks,

I just noticed that, although my rifle is stamped as 1942 (Tula), it doesn't appera to have any grooves for mounting a scope. I asked the question in another thread and the consensus was that rifles of that vintage should still have them. Since my experience with this rifle could be written on the head of a pin, I'd like to ask again for your help.

1) Is there a chance that I'm just not "seeing" the grooves (i.e., significantly different than a typical mount.

2) If there are no grooves, are there any alternate ways to mount a scope on this rifle (i.e., side-mount)?

Any and all input is appreciated, thanks again for your help! :)
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Easiest way to put a scope on the critter is to get a spare body cover and silver-solder or otherwise attach STRONGLY your bases to that. When you mount the new body cover, be sure to spread it a bit in order to make the tightest mount possible. It won't be perfect by any means, but it will work as well as those expensive issue ones.
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smellie said:
Easiest way to put a scope on the critter is to get a spare body cover and silver-solder or otherwise attach STRONGLY your bases to that. When you mount the new body cover, be sure to spread it a bit in order to make the tightest mount possible. It won't be perfect by any means, but it will work as well as those expensive issue ones.
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I agree. At one point I had several pics of mounts people had made using bolt covers, quite clever. Only issue might be that any play equals rotten accuracy, and inablility to hold zero.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=121867

http://postimage.org/image/3pz4neyck/

Here's an interesting idea to keep the repro sniper mounts from sliding fore and aft...of course, the grooves are needed for this.

Buy a reproduction mount direct from Sarco or get one from flea-bay for around $100.

Picture in your mind the very front of the mount where the dovetailed mount arms become narrow.

Drill/tap a small, flat headed screw near the tip (counter bore the hole so the screw fits flush and use a black screw to match the mount)

Fabricate a small L shaped piece of steel (blue it to match the mount) secure it by the screw so the L part wraps around tightly against the front of the receiver where it ends.

Do this on both sides of the mount and it will securely lock the scope mount in place. Of course you would never do this with a original mount

Keep in mind that the reproduction mounts usually fit loose in the grooved receiver. You may have to phycially bend the mount arms in so the mount fits very tight to the receiver. My original sniper broke 2 mounting pins until I tightened the reproduction mount this way. The recoil was causing the loose fitting mount to "shift forward and back" under inertia.
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I know why you cant hold your zero...

You need the "Sniper" notch on the receiver not only the grooves, It's a specific sniper variant of the SVT 40. Of course you can only use the reproduction mount and PU scope. BTW a 1891/30 PU scope wont fit in the SVT repro mount (larger diameter), you need a SVT PU scope, so be carefull when buying
 
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